[ffldresident24]

while you have a smaller population than stamford, you some how continue to go the wrong direction toward bpt/hartford/nh/wb in the crime rankings. you continue to get closer and closer to the national average, instead of improving and going toward the safe top 25 like stamford and danbury. Its no accident that stamford and bridgeport are trying to clean up so all the ppl go to norwalk, which sits in between. the population is more like 100k not 85k and every street and sidewalk shows that...last year you fell a couple spots on the rankings toward the average but you only had 1 murder/ms. this year with only a couple hours left you have 6 on record. where will you fall on the stat sheet this year? can't be better! wonder how the police dept will spin this to sound good...

[Tin Knocker]

Whats your point?
Its a state problem IMO more than a local one. The people (criminals) are here, driving them from one place to another doesn't help much. Getting them off the streets & tossing the key does.
As we get more & more liberal you can expect crime to continue healthy & strong.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Tin Knocker

As we get more & more liberal you can expect crime to continue healthy & strong.

Pretty much.

[MikefromCT]

Originally Posted by Tin Knocker

Whats your point?
Its a state problem IMO more than a local one. The people (criminals) are here, driving them from one place to another doesn't help much. Getting them off the streets & tossing the key does.
As we get more & more liberal you can expect crime to continue healthy & strong.

I agree with what you said up until the last comment. I can think of plenty of right-wing red states that have plenty of urban ills in them. The problem with crime has less to do with political ideologies and more to do with the attitude and culture of today, particularly among young people. This is a societal problem, and it starts in the home.

[Tin Knocker]

It is a societal problem, the problem is our society is too lax as far as bad behavior both in the home & on the streets.The attitude & culture of todays youth was created by liberal ideology. We are very limited as to what we can do in the home to enforce rules due to liberal policies & programs, and once the kids we werent allowed to discipline hit the streets, instead of getting a swift trip to jail when they screw up, that MIGHT straighten a kid out, they get put thru liberal social programs that more often than not do nothing but teach the kids to work the system.

Noplace is immune to criminal activity, but some places, like CT, breed it.

We need to have govt butt out & let people discipline theyre children when they are children. Once theyre adults we need that same govt to forget the social workers & let criminals suffer in prison.

Even in so called red states its not conservative policies that turn criminals loose or dream up all sorts of social programs to help people who should be behind bars.

We can agree to dissagree I suppose.

[mlassoff]

What a joke.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world by far and yet we still have significant crime problems. We incarcerate a higher percentage of our citizens than China. African Americans have lost an almost entire generation of fathers to the criminal justice system.

I, in no way, advocate crime. More punishment isn't working however. Let's figure out what DOES work instead of entertaining an impulse for vengeance.

The problem has little to do with political ideology and much more to do with societal problems that transcend political ideology.

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

What a joke.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world by far and yet we still have significant crime problems. We incarcerate a higher percentage of our citizens than China. African Americans have lost an almost entire generation of fathers to the criminal justice system.

I, in no way, advocate crime. More punishment isn't working however. Let's figure out what DOES work instead of entertaining an impulse for vengeance.

The problem has little to do with political ideology and much more to do with societal problems that transcend political ideology.

Actually, it is working. Our crime rates are down since we stiffened sentencing. Of course it would be better if all these criminals were productive citizens and involved fathers. Any ideas?

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by ffldresident24

while you have a smaller population than stamford, you some how continue to go the wrong direction toward bpt/hartford/nh/wb in the crime rankings. you continue to get closer and closer to the national average, instead of improving and going toward the safe top 25 like stamford and danbury. Its no accident that stamford and bridgeport are trying to clean up so all the ppl go to norwalk, which sits in between. the population is more like 100k not 85k and every street and sidewalk shows that...last year you fell a couple spots on the rankings toward the average but you only had 1 murder/ms. this year with only a couple hours left you have 6 on record. where will you fall on the stat sheet this year? can't be better! wonder how the police dept will spin this to sound good...

Isn't a bit contradictory that you say "the wrong direction towards bpt" then say "its no accident that stamford and BRIDGEPORT are trying to clean up". So is Bridgeport improving or still in the wrong direction? (Having a lot of familiarity with both bpt and Stamford I'd say it is improving, but at a slow pace compared to Stamford). Just thought I'd note, no more "feeding".

[Tin Knocker]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

What a joke.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world by far and yet we still have significant crime problems. We incarcerate a higher percentage of our citizens than China. African Americans have lost an almost entire generation of fathers to the criminal justice system.

I, in no way, advocate crime. More punishment isn't working however. Let's figure out what DOES work instead of entertaining an impulse for vengeance.

The problem has little to do with political ideology and much more to do with societal problems that transcend political ideology.

Punishment doesn't work the way we do it. We dont punish, we rehabilitate.
Its not the problem that has anything to do with ideology, its the solutions we choose that reflect our ideology. Ours is one of tolerance & denial, our crime rates reflect that.

In China people fear incarceration, here it gives guys a chance to work out until theyre let back out again. How should our incarceration be a deterrent when its a country club compared to the streets most of these guys live on?

[Tin Knocker]

Originally Posted by Cambium

The poster of this Topic not only has just 6 posts, not only is a troll, but did not back-up his claim with links or stats.

Stop feeding.

The tangent the thread has taken is worthy of discussion, even if the original troll topic wasn't.