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Old 10-19-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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NOTHING is free. Not even Obama money. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.
Americans pay more in taxes for medicare than Candadians do for their ENTIRE healthcare system. Ie insurance FREE for everyone. Of course it's not completely "free". It's subsidized though taxes, but in the end that is a much cheaper delivery method and it makes sure everyone is covered.

What premiums do canadians pay for health insurance? NONE. It's called the Canada health act that outlaws private insurance and gives FREE insurance to everyone. This was put into place after people were losing everything they owned due to illness. There were massive amount of medical bankruptcies and terrible health care for many in the middle class and the poor people.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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And that spread is measured via the Gini coefficient, which is clearly less than southwestern Connecticut's, but somehow their poor are worst off than ours!

You can't block the sun with your thumb. Trickle down and economic growth has benefited all Americans.

BTW, Mexico has become a middle class majority country (around 51% of households) and most other Latin American countries have seen a tremendous rise of their respective middle classes too. Hell holes is not what I would call them. Guess why those countries have progressed? (Hint: economic growth and trickle down)
LMAO....YEAH MEXICO IS A GREAT COUNTRY! Not at all violent and poor. Very leave it to beaver middle class. Great economic opportunity there. I'm thinking of relocating to Tijuana....how's the school system down in Tijuana?
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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Americans pay more in taxes for medicare than Candadians do for their ENTIRE healthcare system. Ie insurance FREE for everyone. Of course it's not completely "free". It's subsidized though taxes, but in the end that is a much cheaper delivery method and it makes sure everyone is covered.
Health costs are killing us: Let’s try an outcomes-based payment system - The Globe and Mail

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Old 10-19-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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LMAO....YEAH MEXICO IS A GREAT COUNTRY! Not at all violent and poor. Very leave it to beaver middle class. Great economic opportunity there. I'm thinking of relocating to Tijuana....how's the school system down in Tijuana?
Yay! Say hi to the 1 million Americans already living in Mexico.

I'm glad you have shown how well traveled you are.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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LMAO....Globe and Mail = Canada's fox news. They've been talking about killing canada's health act for years.

Greed....they represent canada's bay street(wall street of canada).

Lot's of uptapped market to rip people off with free market health insurance. Those insurance companies are licking their lips and chomping at the bit to get rid of government run health care in Canada. Time will tell if the general public is stupid enough to buy it. Same thing going on here with social security and medicare....we don't have enough money yet the rich keep on getting richer?? hmmmmm.....Use your brains people.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Yay! Say hi to the 1 million Americans already living in Mexico.

I'm glad you have shown how well traveled you are.
So your advice is for your average American to immigrate to Mexico for financial opportunity....OK. Got it.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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LMAO....Globe and Mail = Canada's fox news. They've been talking about killing canada's health act for years.
Well then...

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I've lived in both Canada and the US for about 10 years each country (lived in the US first, moved to Canada, and am now back in the US). For background, I lived in Oakville and downtown Toronto in Canada and in Atlanta, NY, and NJ in the US. Personally, for me, living in the US surpasses Canada in a number of factors.

-Being an American moving to Canada, you tend to experience unsolicited racism (yes, it is racism... remove "Americas"/"Yanks" and replace with "Indians"/"Blacks" and think about how it sounds now). The amount of American "jokes" at my expense and the tendency for people to refer to anything that may happen South of the Border as "stupid" American things was offensive. It became clear very fast that a large part of Canadian's sense of pride was to bash America together.

- I am fortunate enough to have private healthcare here in the US. With that (and yes, I unerstand this is completely different otherwise), I find healthcare far superior in the US. The ability to see a doctor when needed without being waitlisted is incredible. The quality is far better, and frankly most of my Canadian friends who became doctors did so in the US.

- The US was way more homogenzied than Canada. In Canada, I first experienced racism and in the oddest ways. Aside from the "American" jokes, I was also subject to racism due to being of Indian heritage. Frankly, it was the first time I realized I was "different". In my mind, in the US we were all Americans and I never thought of myself as different. Moving into a primarily "white" neighborhood in the late 90s (Oakville), I had some offhanded comments regarding being Indian. One example is a lady in her late 30s (a parent of a friend) say "I don't mean to be offensive, but you're people are taking over our city" after seeing an elderly Indian man walking down the side of the road. Similarly, from the other side, I received a lot of comments about being "white washed" from the Indian community. I truly didn't have a 'niche' to fit into.

- Hand in hand with the above comment, my husband is Canadian and we often compare our education on US vs. Canada. In the US, we are a melting pot and proud of it. Like I said above, I never felt or even knew I was different from my peers. We all were Americans and I truly was colorblind to race. My husband learned that Canada is a mixed bag, everyone is of different races living together in Canada. He was also taught that melting pot was a negative thing. This was so strange to me, as living through both first hand, I definitely felt more estranged in the 'mixed bag' lifestyle. He has come to agree with me now in this perspective, however I do realize this is an area where some may disagree adamantly (and can understand where that stems from totally, I'm just talking on my personal experiences).

I hope I did not offend anyone, I really don't intend to. I feel many people who respond to the US vs. Canada things have only lived in one of the countries and wanted to put in my $0.02 from someone who's lived in both for equal amounts of time. Canada is a great country, but for me and based on my personal experiences, I find the US better to live in (which is why I am back ).
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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So your advice is for your average American to immigrate to Mexico for financial opportunity....OK. Got it.
Top 15 Business Opportunities in Mexico | The Best Out Business World

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Old 10-19-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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There is no wait list to see a doctor. Go to a clinic.... They will see you the same day.

You have an emergency, they will see you immediately at the hospital.

Bunch of nonsense.

There are some wait lists for things like waiting in certain area's for a specialist to reconstruct an acl ect...but not for emergencies or if you need to see a regular doctor.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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There is no wait list to see a doctor. Go to a clinic.... They will see you the same day.

You have an emergency, they will see you immediately at the hospital.

Bunch of nonsense.

There are some wait lists for things like waiting in certain area's for a specialist to reconstruct an acl ect...but not for emergencies or if you need to see a regular doctor.
Newfoundland and Labrador's deputy premier says Danny Williams is undergoing heart surgery in the United States later this week because the treatment he is seeking was not available in his home province.
ROFLMAO

Canada News: 'Danny Millions' Williams heads south for heart surgery - thestar.com
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