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What spread of it? Realistically now, not some science fiction fantasy version. Thomas Duncan was in the ER and out in the community while symptomatic. There are no other cases, except for a nurse in contact at the peak of the viral load (yes I know there's still time). Thus one could reasonably surmise that while it's infectious, unless you have the right contact at the right time it is not particularly contagious. If it were, we'd have his family plus numerous hospital staff, ER visitors, and whomever else infected. But they aren't. So calm it down.
This hysterical over reaction and the resultant calls for excessive action are far more dangerous to our society at large than the actual virus.
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Originally Posted by Mack Knife
What they said in Africa.
Yep, been said before......in Africa, and here. My paranoia stands. When an airline is about to go down, the job of the fight attendant is to calm the passengers down. In no way does this mean the plane won't go down. That detail should have been addressed long before the passengers boarded the flight.
UPDATE 4-Spanish Ebola victim conscious and sitting unaided | Reuters
An experimental treatment, ZMab, is available in Spain for use in her case, a health source said. However, it was not clear whether she was now being given the drug. She was given antibodies from previously infected patients earlier this week.
I don't get this.. The quote below is from an article from today. I thought she was doing better? Are they two different patients?
The nurse's assistant in Spain with Ebola remains in critical condition and is having trouble breathing, authorities said.
Yep, been said before......in Africa, and here. My paranoia stands. When an airline is about to go down, the job of the fight attendant is to calm the passengers down. In no way does this mean the plane won't go down. That detail should have been addressed long before the passengers boarded the flight.
But you aren't listening to the flight attendants, so what does it matter what anybody tells you?
One of the worst case scenarios has already happened, and people are not falling like flies. They aren't. That just the fact of the matter. In fact, there's an opportunity to improve procedures and protocols and even further reduce the likelihood of it becoming pandemic.
But there's no way to reduce hysteria in people if they are determined to give in to it no matter what.
There isn't a protocol for heavy handed dramatics.
The rest of the world is not doing enough to stamp out
Ebola in Africa. They said it was just paranoid at first, well, they aren't saying that anymore. They asked for treatment centers and spread prevention early on but we and other countries ignored it as paranoid, excessive. Hopefully it isn't too late.
Quarantine could have happen in Africa before departure to any other country for aid workers. 30 day safety period before leaving. Could have prevented travel for anyone from an infected area without 30 day safety check. Would not have been difficult to do.
Didn't want to, now it's here and abroad. Ebola abroad is a huge deal, I won't underplay this. Nobody should underplay this.
We have no studies about how it can spread in America. Through cattle, pets, birds, we have no idea. Is it possible, yes. It's like kids playing with matches in a garage full of gasoline.
But you aren't listening to the flight attendants, so what does it matter what anybody tells you?
One of the worst case scenarios has already happened, and people are not falling like flies. They aren't. That just the fact of the matter. In fact, there's an opportunity to improve procedures and protocols and even further reduce the likelihood of it becoming pandemic.
But there's no way to reduce hysteria in people if they are determined to give in to it no matter what.
There isn't a protocol for heavy handed dramatics.
We assume people won't spread it here, just like we assumed it wouldn't get this bad in Africa. You are basing your assumptions on the last few weeks of a newly introduced virus in the U.S.
I am basing my heavy handed dramatics on experts in Africa who have worked with it for years and years and cannot stop it's spread to thousands of people regardless of how much they try to educate the public. Workers who predicted this, who asked for aid, who were told no, your paranoid.
Finally, after they have show enough numbers of spread and death, they are getting help. Let's hope it's not too late.
So far, we are equipped to handle it in America has failed. The luck involved in Duncans case doesn't erase the poor handling of this man before hand. From his arrival to the U.S. to his departure by death. The nurse who worked on him had a few days training.
My paranoia stands. I hope our luck doesn't run out because it certainly wasn't because we handled it well.
The rest of the world is not doing enough to stamp out
Ebola in Africa. They said it was just paranoid at first, well, they aren't saying that anymore. They asked for treatment centers and spread prevention early on but we and other countries ignored it as paranoid, excessive. Hopefully it isn't too late.
Quarantine could have happen in Africa before departure to any other country for aid workers. 30 day safety period before leaving. Could have prevented travel for anyone from an infected area without 30 day safety check. Would not have been difficult to do.
Didn't want to, now it's here and abroad. Ebola abroad is a huge deal, I won't underplay this. Nobody should underplay this.
We have no studies about how it can spread in America. Through cattle, pets, birds, we have no idea. Is it possible, yes. It's like kids playing with matches in a garage full of gasoline.
Who says it's not that difficult to do? You can't be serious. How do you stop people leaving and where do you house them? You have no right to dictate where people can and cannot go while in another country for gods' sake. America is not the ruler of the world. There are many foreign nationals in the effected areas and you are not the boss of them.
After all, do you expect another nation to come here and seal off Texas? (And if not, why not? Same difference.)
The rest of the world is not doing enough to stamp out
Ebola in Africa. They said it was just paranoid at first, well, they aren't saying that anymore. They asked for treatment centers and spread prevention early on but we and other countries ignored it as paranoid, excessive. Hopefully it isn't too late.
Quarantine could have happen in Africa before departure to any other country for aid workers. 30 day safety period before leaving. Could have prevented travel for anyone from an infected area without 30 day safety check. Would not have been difficult to do.
Didn't want to, now it's here and abroad. Ebola abroad is a huge deal, I won't underplay this. Nobody should underplay this.
We have no studies about how it can spread in America. Through cattle, pets, birds, we have no idea. Is it possible, yes. It's like kids playing with matches in a garage full of gasoline.
Sorry but this is just misinformation, hysteria, and conspiracy theory all wrapped up into one.
It very well know how and why the epidemic spread in Africa. Hygiene, education, lack of resources.
We absolutely know how it can spread in America.
Let's not forget we have a grand total of 2 cases in the US, and only 1 acquired internally.
Send infected folks to my mother in laws house for dinner....Her cooking will kill anything,ebola virus wouldn't stand a chance......
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The quote below is from an article from today. I thought she was doing better? Are they two different patients? 
