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I feel for you, and have friends in your position. At what point are healthcare workers suppose to say forget it? Many of my friends are taking their sick leave now because of Ebola.
Anybody working in healthcare right now will tell you we are treading on thin ice, and risk of exposure are certain, not if but when.
We should be concerned enough to stop telling everyone it's containable, and start actually using measures to try to contain it. This is my problem, we are relying on old standards that are not going to work. We are not equipped to handle an outbreak of Ebola, we are not educated to handle it, we don't have the money to handle it, we better address this reality.
People can call me paranoid if they want but in this case it's better safe than sorry. It's Ebola. What's going to happen come peak flu season? Norovirus season? Crammed ER's for starters. Don't get me started on the uninsured.
Thank you. It's difficult for someone outside of the health care realm to understand the reality of something like Ebola. Our hospitals are notoriously understaffed and are currently over whelmed with that crazy virus killing kids. Let something like the grand daddy of all viruses like Ebola take hold and you will see people leaving health care left and right. Including me.
I realized that after I wrote the post. My answer still stands. Do you think this is all part of a "grand conspiracy"?
Not a grand conspiracy but certainly this is being handled much differently from all the other cases. My question is "why"? Also, the press conference by the CDC ended abruptly after a reported asked about this particular case. Though it may have been a coincidence, it still looked fishy. Do you honestly believe we are being told everything about Ebola by our administration??
How exactly do you educate and convince whole nations of people to change long held traditions, beliefs, and ways of life in a matter of days? How do you change their standards of living and access to medical aid and sanitation?
Ebola spread rapidly through West Africa because these things are not possible. In the USA, yes, Ebola could spread, but as a collective whole, we are better educated, have better sanitation and hygiene, greater medical resources and standards of living. Here, many individuals can buy gallons of bleach, gloves, masks, plastic sheeting, etc. stock up on basic food staples, fresh water, and what have you with minimal effort.
We are by and large, better educated and accept the science of transmission and the preventative measures required of avoiding the sick and not handling our dead. Now, I get it, the thought of my child falling ill and me not being able to hold and comfort him tears me to pieces, but I still understand what would be needed of me in such a situation.
So, can Ebola spread in the USA? Of course, it's already happened. Is it likely, given our resources and education to wipe out vast swathes of our population? Not very.
I was referring to America, and their education on Ebola. As we aren't familiar with it here, like the aid workers in Africa are.
As for it's transmission we are assuming it's spread in Africa is because of their poor conditions, and because our conditions are better for some here, not all of course, but most that it won't spread here. There problem was the poor people, and conditions.
I hope we are correct in that assumption as there has been no trial in any other country to contradict it. But, it may not be the reason, we may just be assuming that is the reason. Half the people live through it in Africa, and half have lived through it regardless of conditions.
Animals, we don't know how that will work out here yet. A lot of unanswered questions we simply don't know or will until outbreak occurs. We really don't know much, and our hospitals are underfunded, and poorly trained in 3rd world viruses. What is a local nurse suppose to do? A lab worker? Education needs to take place now that it's here. We now have Ebola in America, regardless of how many are ill with it, it's here and needs proper addressing. So far I know of no program any of my friends have gone through for this. Anybody have any extra training going on yet?
I still don't think any emergency warrants hysteria, but concern yes. And, we aren't as concerned with the spread of this virus in America as I think we should be. If that's being paranoid then I'll wear the badge.
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Thank you. It's difficult for someone outside of the health care realm to understand the reality of something like Ebola. Our hospitals are notoriously understaffed and are currently over whelmed with that crazy virus killing kids. Let something like the grand daddy of all viruses like Ebola take hold and you will see people leaving health care left and right. Including me.
And I don't blame you! Nobody is going to help you, so far our governments haven't even given extra money to hospitals to get enough staff, or gear to take this on. Like you said, you are pounded by any serious virus or flu outbreak we already get, like a perfect storm for Ebola to take hold.
If our government doesn't protect our healthcare workers, instead tries to blame them to calm the public, what makes everyone think they have no worries? Sometimes you just need to take matters into your own hands, and if enough people quit maybe they will realize they should start doing more.
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Reason: I type to fast for my own good. lol
Wasn't that long when preppers were looked at as fringe,over the top extremest ...
Wait...has this changed? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by USAGeorge
What's your thoughts....What do you consider reasonable preparedness be it for an epidemic outbreak to a sudden loss of something else that impinges on the necessities of living.
I would consider the following to be reasonable preparedness:
1) Stay informed;
2) Stop freaking out;
3) Get your flu shot, stop eating fast food, reduce your intake of sugar, and exercise regularly - because heart disease, cancer and flu are much more likely to get you than Ebola.
Has anybody heard a valid reason for not restricting the 13,000 visas from Ebola plagued countries? I haven't heard one that made sense yet.
I haven't heard them bring it up at all, aside from the one congressman. I'm assuming they have their own reasons which they wouldn't release to the public - namely, money, politics, political correctness. Probably no one wants to take on the responsibility for actually making that decision. Mind-boggling.
Worried about flying on a plane sitting next to somebody who might be sick with Ebola, or anything else? Ever ride the NYC subway system? MILLIONS use is ever day, including people from foreign countries. Rush hour? Literally squeezed into the packed car like a sardine. Sitting next to somebody on a plane is far, far away in comparison.
How would you isolate 8 million people in one place? Impossible. One person could spread that disease to millions of people in just a matter of days. Want more fear?
Edit: NYC has a lot of hospitals. Health care workers ride the subways too.
If ebola is as deadly as some say,it should have killed far more than 4000.
Lberia has 9 million people.
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