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Iran would be a good bet on how to fight ISIS. Funny i keep reading about them being an CIA creation.To help create a need for the Americans to stay in the region. I dont know,but its funny how we seemed to know about them for so long yet did nothing.
Obama was told about ISIS a long time ago.
What a waste of money and peoples lives. I read where over 500.000 Iraq civilians died and are still dying from lung cancer from depleted uranium rounds. We about destroyed the country and the people there wish we had never come there. Wars for energy companies.
Anyone who still thinks ISIS is not a serious concern... the fact that they have managed to make Iran tacitly support the USA should be proof enough to the contrary.
Okay, this is uninformed. So I'm going to write something to educate you.
The entire conflict in Iraq was really a combination between an Iranian attempt to build a satellite state and an American attempt to funnels arms and oil money from a newly-created Israeli ally from the beginning. The whole process was kicked off through a shady double-dealer by the name of Ahmed Chalabi. His "evidence" was what the Bush-era neocons used to justify the war in Iraq, without ever vetting it themselves. Here's a good piece on it:
Turned out he was an Iranian spy. Not that they cared much, because their interests and the Iranians' overlapped so thoroughly that Cheney & Co. could exploit the hypernationalist war-frenzy (anybody remember Michael Savage proclaiming that anyone who didn't swear an oath of loyalty to the United States belonged in a concentration camp?) to continue unabashedly on the same warpath with the same goals, never having to worry about going back to justify their past transgressions. Sure was convenient how Iranian, U.S., and Israeli goals lined up so perfectly in this case.
Anyway, after that happened, the U.S. government decided that the sensible policy was to back the Shia sectarian militias, which they did through the Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army, the Badr Brigades, and tacitly allowed the Quds Force to do their special-ops night raids. The thinking was that the U.S. could install a friendly dictator (ultimately Nouri al-Maliki) to control Baghdad to Basrah, and all at once subsidize giant Iraqi arms contracts for Halliburton, Lockheed, etc., extract Iraqi oil, create an Israeli ally and build a nation of people thankful to America for giving them a democracy. The problem was, the sectarian violence on which Saddam had so long kept a lid exploded in the power-vacuum of American military rule, and the blowback led al-Qaida in Iraq (now ISIS) to come into existence as a Sunni-representative power broker. This led to even more intense fighting, and the U.S. concluded that the only way to bring the important Southeastern oil country under control was to rid Baghdad almost entirely of its Sunni population. They then turned a blind eye to the Mahdi Army and the Badr Brigades as the Shia militias went through the city and wantonly killed and tortured with power drills all of the Sunnis they could find, doing their Shia-consolidating-power-bidding for them.
This, in turn, led to the escalation of the power of al-Qaida in Iraq, who wore out their welcome among most of Anbar Province's Sunni tribes after the U.S. reflexively vowed to start protecting the hapless Sunni neighborhoods whose destruction had been almost guaranteed by the Shia militias and U.S. complaisance in the first place. Then, the U.S. began a crackdown on the Shia militias, which led to Sadr renouncing all foreign intervention and calling for an Iraqi Nationalist party free from both Iranian and U.S. influence. Since neither the U.S., nor Iran, nor Israel (Sadr being anti-Gaza/West Bank-occupation) wanted Sadr calling the shots, they turned control of Baghdad over to the Iranian sock-puppets in the Dawa.
Meanwhile, the U.S. aligned Sunni tribesmen shed most of the al-Qaida control in Anbar province during what has come to be called the Sunni Awakening. The problem of ISIS consolidating gains in the Anbar province arose when Maliki, over a period of 8 years or something, agreed nominally to work with the non-al-Qaida affiliated Sunni tribal leaders (who, in the beginning, were the vast majority), but never actually came to include them in any decision making, and allowed his own army to act as, basically, another oppressive Shia militia. So, instead, the Sunni tribes looked to ISIS as a means to provide for their security and stability as the alliance, to them, was better than getting screwed by an Iranian sock-puppet on a day-in and day-out basis.
So, the real nature of the alliances in Iraq has always been Iran-Israel-United States vs. Sunni Arabs. This is absolutely nothing new, and is certainly not indicative of just how serious a concern ISIS is, as you allege.
Iran would be a good bet on how to fight ISIS. Funny i keep reading about them being an CIA creation.To help create a need for the Americans to stay in the region. I dont know,but its funny how we seemed to know about them for so long yet did nothing.
Obama was told about ISIS a long time ago.
What a waste of money and peoples lives. I read where over 500.000 Iraq civilians died and are still dying from lung cancer from depleted uranium rounds. We about destroyed the country and the people there wish we had never come there. Wars for energy companies.
That is a terrible idea. Invade ISIS-held territory with Iranian and U.S. forces, and you're absolutely BEGGING for jihadi reprisals on a scale the world has never even seen before.
How quickly people forget. You didn’t mention Halliburton, Cheney and Rumsfeld. Oh, you did mention oil companies. And who is this “we” you are talking about? In this country “we” write it 500,000. Learn the numbers then count the dead. Where you from?
So, the real nature of the alliances in Iraq has always been Iran-Israel-United States vs. Sunni Arabs. This is absolutely nothing new, and is certainly not indicative of just how serious a concern ISIS is, as you allege.
Learn your history.
Speaking of history, the only weapons seriously threatening Israel are Iranian. Those operating them are Iranian-backed or outright Iranian. How does this fit in your Iran-Israel-United States alliance?
Iran doesn't need ISIS wiped out. They could have done it when it reared its head. Iran is looking out for Iran and in some manner using every little ploy to mitigate sanctions and gain time to produce the means to build nukes.
How does the US go after Iran in any significant way if they decide to build a nuke? Suddenly, were this video to be the beginning of a revelation of some Iranian work against IS the US wouldn't face some egg on it's face for going after a country going after IS? Just how many enemies can the US fight at one time?
We already know that, one. The US just got finished (we not really) being fully engaged and somehow it will go back in and deal with Iran? Not a chance, the cost would be too high. Besides, we're already living with a nuclear NK and people still sit outside drinking lattes at Starbucks.
Iran will get their nuke because the Israeli's really can't stop it at this point. Two years ago, maybe but no longer.
The US has to leave the clean up of IS to others at some point. IS is either an all in or all out affair and even if nearly decimated militarily, nothing really has changed except the next opportunity to come along and then it starts all over.
Iran isn't helping the US in any way. It is helping Iran.
I don't think anyone will argue ISIS aren't a serious threat in that region. The debate is how much (if at all) we should continue to be involved their wars. The US indirectly helped create Al Queda during the Afghan/Soviet war, and again with ISIS by getting involved in Iraq and not supporting the right rebels in Syria.
The Kurds are a safe bet to gain international aid & funding, but after them....who?
Speaking of history, the only weapons seriously threatening Israel are Iranian. Those operating them are Iranian-backed or outright Iranian. How does this fit in your Iran-Israel-United States alliance?
That is not true. There is no threat to Israel anywhere in the entire Middle East. Read Gareth Porter for a thorough debunking of the Iranian "Nuclear Crisis" by the only impartial Western journalist covering the issue. You can point to the Mann-Leveritts for an alternative perspective, but they are approving of basically everything the Supreme Islamic Council does... and who are you going to point to as a nuclear expert who will vouch for the existence of the Iranian "nuclear weapons" program? David Albright? Gordon Prather already exposed that fool. There's literally nobody that can verify that Iran is really any threat to Israel in anything other than rhetoric. The whole "stolen computer" scenario has been debunked as Mossad b/s from the start.
Iran doesn't need ISIS wiped out. They could have done it when it reared its head. Iran is looking out for Iran and in some manner using every little ploy to mitigate sanctions and gain time to produce the means to build nukes.
How does the US go after Iran in any significant way if they decide to build a nuke? Suddenly, were this video to be the beginning of a revelation of some Iranian work against IS the US wouldn't face some egg on it's face for going after a country going after IS? Just how many enemies can the US fight at one time?
We already know that, one. The US just got finished (we not really) being fully engaged and somehow it will go back in and deal with Iran? Not a chance, the cost would be too high. Besides, we're already living with a nuclear NK and people still sit outside drinking lattes at Starbucks.
Iran will get their nuke because the Israeli's really can't stop it at this point. Two years ago, maybe but no longer.
The US has to leave the clean up of IS to others at some point. IS is either an all in or all out affair and even if nearly decimated militarily, nothing really has changed except the next opportunity to come along and then it starts all over.
Iran isn't helping the US in any way. It is helping Iran.
There is no nuke in Iran. Gareth Porter has completely debunked this myth.
That is not true. There is no threat to Israel anywhere in the entire Middle East. Read Gareth Porter for a thorough debunking of the Iranian "Nuclear Crisis" by the only impartial Western journalist covering the issue. You can point to the Mann-Leveritts for an alternative perspective, but they are approving of basically everything the Supreme Islamic Council does... and who are you going to point to as a nuclear expert who will vouch for the existence of the Iranian "nuclear weapons" program? David Albright? Gordon Prather already exposed that fool. There's literally nobody that can verify that Iran is really any threat to Israel in anything other than rhetoric. The whole "stolen computer" scenario has been debunked as Mossad b/s from the start.
Where's your REAL evidence?
Do you visit earth much.
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