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Old 12-04-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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We need more public figures like this

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"But I know one thing: If we dismantle and limit the power of our policemen any more than we have already, then we’re going to have a lot of problems in this country. What do you do if someone pulls a gun on you or is robbing a store and you stop them? I don’t want to hear about this hands-up crap. That’s not what happened. I don’t know exactly what did happen, but I know that’s not what happened.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:26 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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So....

You have a problem with pro athletes expressing their first amendment right on their highest platform.....


....but you don't have a problem with a former athlete/coach and current public figure expressing his first amendment right on one of his highest platforms.


Gooooooooo figure.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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So....

You have a problem with pro athletes expressing their first amendment right on their highest platform.....


....but you don't have a problem with a former athlete/coach and current public figure expressing his first amendment right on one of his highest platforms.


Gooooooooo figure.
First of all, this is not what the First Amendment is all about. The 1A says that the government may not restrict the right of self expression by the citizens. It says nothing about whether or not citizens may be critical of other citizens based on what they say or do.

That said, I fully support their rights of the Ram players to do what they did.

However, I note that in so doing they exposed themselves as idiots. This shouldn't be too surprising as we're talking about a group of pro football players.

The "hands up, don't shoot' meme has clearly been demonstrated to be a fiction and not at all what happened in Ferguson. I fully support everyone's right to continue perpetuate this fiction. For one thing, it helps the rest of us sort out those with at least half a brain from the rest of the crowd.

Pants up, don't loot.
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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First of all, this is not what the First Amendment is all about. The 1A says that the government may not restrict the right of self expression by the citizens. It says nothing about whether or not citizens may be critical of other citizens based on what they say or do.

That said, I fully support their rights of the Ram players to do what they did.

However, I note that in so doing they exposed themselves as idiots. This shouldn't be too surprising as we're talking about a group of pro football players.

The "hands up, don't shoot' meme has clearly been demonstrated to be a fiction and not at all what happened in Ferguson. I fully support everyone's right to continue perpetuate this fiction. For one thing, it helps the rest of us sort out those with at least half a brain from the rest of the crowd.

Pants up, don't loot.
I know what the First Amendment is all about.

That's not the point I was making, but thanks for playing.

People are throwing a fit for what those players did, because they don't agree with their opinion and vice versa. The 1A is only acceptable when their opinion is the same as yours.


Pants up, don't loot - that's not even catchy. Guess I can't be too surprised considering the source of said slogan.
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Rural Michigan
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...194346168.html

We need more public figures like this

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Really?

A wealthy old white guy who lives in a multi-million $$ home in a gated community doesn't understand the problems faced by black / poor Americans?

What else is "news"?

Is water really "wet"?

/duh!
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Really?

A wealthy old white guy who lives in a multi-million $$ home in a gated community doesn't understand the problems faced by black / poor Americans?

What else is "news"?

Is water really "wet"?

/duh!
Yes, we definitely need more people like Mike. You know, someone who actually worked hard to get where he is. Someone who continued his education, contributed to society, etc. We dont have to work hard to pay for Mike Ditka. We dont have to send police to watch Mike and his neighborhood. We dont have to hear about Mike selling drugs to kids, or pulling drive by shootings on people because he doesnt like the neighborhood they live in or the colors theyre wearing.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why am I picturing John Carlos and Tommie Smith? They were wrong because of the time and place.

The Rams players are wrong because the hands up thing did not happen.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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The Rams players are wrong because the hands up thing did not happen.
Even Don Lemon from CNN has begun the process of dismantling the false "hands up" narrative.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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It's OK, now they have another one to complain about.

Too bad they pissed away all their credibility.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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First of all, this is not what the First Amendment is all about. The 1A says that the government may not restrict the right of self expression by the citizens. It says nothing about whether or not citizens may be critical of other citizens based on what they say or do.

That said, I fully support their rights of the Ram players to do what they did.

However, I note that in so doing they exposed themselves as idiots. This shouldn't be too surprising as we're talking about a group of pro football players.

The "hands up, don't shoot' meme has clearly been demonstrated to be a fiction and not at all what happened in Ferguson. I fully support everyone's right to continue perpetuate this fiction. For one thing, it helps the rest of us sort out those with at least half a brain from the rest of the crowd.

Pants up, don't loot.
Whose asking government to do anything. Its NFL that should be concerned with those representing their image.
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