1st shoe drops for Washington florist under fire for faith
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exactly. Which makes me wonder what the damages are.
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That is exactly what the couple did. they told friends, who told others, eventually it went viral and the state contacted them about the event. They didn't run out to get a lawyer. It was the AG that brought up charges.
That would be incorrect. The couple went out and got the ACLU to sue for them. The State of Washington's suit was a separate case that the judge later joined together.
That would be incorrect. The couple went out and got the ACLU to sue for them. The State of Washington's suit was a separate case that the judge later joined together.
You may want to check your facts.
The STATE filed the original suit. The couple filed later. They didn't walk out and get on the phone with the ACLU.
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In March, Arlene’s Flowers & Gifts in Richland, Washington refused to provide wedding flowers to Rob Ingersoll and his partner, even though they’d been long-time customers of the florist. After owner Barronelle Stutzman informed Ingersoll that she could not provide the flowers because of her “relationship with Jesus Christ,” Ingersoll shared his story online and the news went viral.
Now, State Attorney General Bob Ferguson has filed a consumer protection lawsuit against Arlene’s Flowers for violating the state’s nondiscrimination protections based on sexual orientation:
LOL. There's no 'grandfathering' exemptions of civil rights laws. Whitey's Dixie Wizard Diner doesn't get to keep a "coloreds only" bathroom because it's been open since the 1950s.
Fines for breaking the law. Originally it was $2001 but it was lowered to $1001. The florist still refuses to pay the fine.
That's right. It's called courage of your convictions. People who live their lives based on moral equivalency don't, and likely never will, understand that concept.
Gay marriage being legal is new??? Gay marriage was totally illegal 40 years ago when she started her business - and, for most of the time her business existed.
Her business should be grandfathered in, as it were.
You know, this could almost be funny, if it weren't so blatantly bigoted. According to this "logic", segregation laws should not have been applied to businesses that were in existence before the laws were changed.
Heck, for that matter, any person who was enslaved prior to the Emancipation Proclamation should have been "grandfathered in" and remained a slave to the end of his/her life - and any person who was a slaveholder prior to the EP would be "grandfathered in" and could keep his/her slaves, and keep any offspring enslaved, and continue to trade slaves with other "grandfathered in" slave holders.
I guarantee you that in 40 years, that woman has sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of flowers to gay people. So just when was she planning on refunding all that money and not ever selling so much as a boutonnière to a gay man ever again?
Religious belief is not an excuse to discriminate against people you don't like. Non-violent hate crime is still hate crime.
Fines for breaking the law. Originally it was $2001 but it was lowered to $1001. The florist still refuses to pay the fine.
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Originally Posted by jjrose
Please point out in the court documents where she was asked to deliver, or do anything specific regarding the flowers for the couple.
That is another red herring. I don't have to show you anything. Court documents don't contain the entire testimony given under oath. Deposition transcripts are no longer filed with the courts. If you want to proved copies to me, I would be happy to review them for you.
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