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Old 04-14-2015, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Water from floods don't refill aquifers, or put snow on mountains.
No, but they are usually indicative of a wetter season which does fill aquifers and put snow on mountains.
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Here's an article from February 2014 about some restaurants not serving water unless you ask. This is definitely what we encountered, and we traveled from San Francisco to San Diego and were in every little and big town (including LA) along the way. We stayed in Cambria one night because we went to the Hearst Castle.
California Is So Dry, Some Diners Won't Get Water Unless They Ask : The Salt : NPR
And we stayed in Calabasas and were encouraged not to ask for new sheets/towels every day. Calabasas doesn't need to charge for water, do they? And yet they were trying to conserve water just like everywhere else we went.
This is not California's first time at this rodeo. Every few years we get the no water a restaurant messages. When Tom Bradley was mayor of Los Angeles he had a saying "if its yellow let it mellow, if its brown flush it down". It was an attempt in the 1970s to save water that also saw a period where you had to ask for water. It was before we were afraid of the free water and before we paid more for a bottle of water then we do for an equivalent amount of gasoline.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:03 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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No, but they are usually indicative of a wetter season which does fill aquifers and put snow on mountains.
A couple of wet (water not snow) seasons does not fill aquifers. Most water ends up as runoff.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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You paid for water because they sell water as part of their menu.

Home - Robin's Restaurant
https://d1fkwa1hd8qd6y.cloudfront.ne...59ee65ac24.pdf
On the menu, it says at the top that there is a water shortage and they are charging for a cup of water. That is what they specifically said to us when we were there too, that it was because of the water shortage.

This is what the menu says:
our town is in a drought. it is imperative we minimize our water use. we are serving bottled water in a recyclable cup @ .40pp upon request, & using disposables where we can

But when we were there, I'm pretty sure the price was $1 for a small cup of water. Tap water was not an option.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Wrong.

California borders the largest body of water on the planet.
...how do you even remember to breathe?
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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On the menu, it says at the top that there is a water shortage and they are charging for a cup of water. That is what they specifically said to us when we were there too, that it was because of the water shortage.

This is what the menu says:
our town is in a drought. it is imperative we minimize our water use. we are serving bottled water in a recyclable cup @ .40pp upon request, & using disposables where we can

But when we were there, I'm pretty sure the price was $1 for a small cup of water. Tap water was not an option.
Just keep in mind that this is a business and their water usage is metered. But a thing to think about: they have to wash/rinse their floors with something, they have to wash their hands with something, under a salad bar there is a liquid that needs to be kept cool at a certain temp, they are required to keep certain utensils in a bucket of a certain liquid, etc... What they all have in common is water. Thus that cup of water is most likely filtered tap water (just like aquafina is) if it had a metallic taste to it.

That being said, SoCal was the first time I had ever seen a menu just for water. I currently work in the Middle East surrounded by miles of desert and I've never been charged for water.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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Oh, please. POTABLE water, You know, the drinkable stuff.
Desalination.

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Aruba, a very small island with a true desert climate, has one of the most advanced & successful desalination plants in the world. And therefore one of the most expensive. The cost of living is very high, due in part to the costs of desalination. That cost also gets passed on to the tourism trade; & in turn onto the tourist. It's one big cycle, but it works. Everywhere you go on that island, you are reminded that all of that seawater comes at a hefty price. Signs in public restrooms, hotel rooms, restaurants... remind you to use water sparingly & wisely. Outdoor landscape watering is done with filtered sewer/waste water.

Can California do this? Sure...how to afford it is the question.
California should apply for Federal funding to build desalination plants. Of course, other states will get jealous that California is receiving more Federal funding than they are, so they will lobby against this.

Such an easy fix for such a simple problem. Desalinate the Pacific Ocean.

The Federal government is monetarily sovereign; it can pay any bill of any size at any time.

You see, if California has to build dozens of desalination plants, it will cause a massive economic stimulus. Construction workers and engineers will be needed to build these structures. Solar power plants will have to be constructed to power it. Workers will flock to California for these jobs. But... we can't have all those brown illegal immigrants and their "liberal apologists" in California getting those kind of jobs, can we?
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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There is a lot of butt hurt by other US states over the things California receives an advantage for. Usually, these are crap states like mine (Alabama), that harken back to the days of long ago, when segregation ruled the land.

Cali is one of the three largest states and a major economic engine in the world. Desalination needs to happen and happen now.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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There is a lot of butt hurt by other US states over the things California receives an advantage for. Usually, these are crap states like mine (Alabama), that harken back to the days of long ago, when segregation ruled the land.

Cali is one of the three largest states and a major economic engine in the world. Desalination needs to happen and happen now.
The economy is simply not allowed to improve under Obama.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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A couple of wet (water not snow) seasons does not fill aquifers. Most water ends up as runoff.
Ok chicken little. Wet seasons includes snow in my book. I doubt the moisture will choose to not fall in the colder areas.

How about I say this. Will this make you happy?

If we have 7,352 wet snow seasons in a row our aquifers will be in better shape than they are now.
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