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Old 04-14-2015, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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We are getting so much rain here in Kentucky that it is flash flooding so many places out.....if only there was a way to send it to you....you can have as much as you want! (Well, to a degree, lol).

We have droughts before in the past though, and with it they usually closed down public pools, would only let you water your lawn a couple days of the week and shut down car washes temporarily. It never got to the point of rationing showers and baths though.
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I recently moved to CA . . . from Australia where droughts are a regular and expected part of the weather. Droughts are no surprise here either but everyone here seems to have their head in the sand when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Why would you not aggressively subsidize low flow shower heads and toilets? It's cheaper than a new desal plant.
The drought here around the Bay isn't nearly as bad as it is elsewhere in the state but all of the water that falls here runs off of rooftops and into the Bay. Why would you not mandate rainwater storage systems for new houses and buildings and aggressively subsidize them for older houses and buildings?
I was in Au several years ago and was impressed by some very simple common sense practices like dual flush toilets and rainwater collection tanks by houses.
US citizens do seem to have a head in the sand issue, thinking natural resources are everlasting.
How many reading just this post live in HOA communities where a storage tank wouldn't be allowed, for instance?
The toilets are available here in the US but how many reading this have one or have seen one ?
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:32 AM
 
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The toilets are available here in the US but how many reading this have one or have seen one ?
One of the bathrooms in this house has a Caroma toilet.
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:40 AM
 
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Fortunately, they are opening desalinization plants and planning and building more. Water can be produced for $0.01/gallon, which is a lot more than free water but still a bargain. Israel, the Gulf countries and Australia have big desalinization programs and they all work in spite of occasional glitches.

CA has outgrown the Hoover Dam. It desperately needs a new source of water.
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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Oh, please. POTABLE water, You know, the drinkable stuff.
Desalination plants....I'm certain that was what he was referring to. They have them in the Middle East.

Trouble with California, and this is from a lifelong resident.....Industrial farming in the middle of the desert. I know it's a major economic source, but it's where the majority of the state's water is allocated for. At this point, the farmers will be forced to shut down the majority of their crop. It's insane, the amount of water it takes to grow a single fruit/nut in the Central Valley.
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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... They definitely asked us. I don't think they were ASKED back then to do it, but they were doing it just the same. And we paid for a glass of water at Robin's Restaurant in Cambria. I don't remember all the restaurants we went to or what happened in any particular one, I only know that they kept explaining that there was a water shortage and asking if we wanted water. We did, because that's what we drink when we go out to eat.
You paid for water because they sell water as part of their menu.

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Old 04-14-2015, 07:05 AM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Desalination plants....I'm certain that was what he was referring to. They have them in the Middle East.

Trouble with California, and this is from a lifelong resident.....Industrial farming in the middle of the desert. I know it's a major economic source, but it's where the majority of the state's water is allocated for. At this point, the farmers will be forced to shut down the majority of their crop. It's insane, the amount of water it takes to grow a single fruit/nut in the Central Valley.
And lets not forget our friends who want to exponentially expand pot growing... six gallons a day per plant

And we wont even be able to eat as fields fallow out
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Aruba, a very small island with a true desert climate, has one of the most advanced & successful desalination plants in the world. And therefore one of the most expensive. The cost of living is very high, due in part to the costs of desalination. That cost also gets passed on to the tourism trade; & in turn onto the tourist. It's one big cycle, but it works. Everywhere you go on that island, you are reminded that all of that seawater comes at a hefty price. Signs in public restrooms, hotel rooms, restaurants... remind you to use water sparingly & wisely. Outdoor landscape watering is done with filtered sewer/waste water.

Can California do this? Sure...how to afford it is the question.
The low flush toilets went into effect a generation ago.

It is a matter of who will pay. The buyers of Hersey chocolate bars with almonds or city folks who want a few golf courses and football fields to play on.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:27 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Desalination plants....I'm certain that was what he was referring to. They have them in the Middle East.

Trouble with California, and this is from a lifelong resident.....Industrial farming in the middle of the desert. I know it's a major economic source, but it's where the majority of the state's water is allocated for. At this point, the farmers will be forced to shut down the majority of their crop. It's insane, the amount of water it takes to grow a single fruit/nut in the Central Valley.
It's not just desalination plants. Its water recycling plants. Its drip irrigation. It probably would have been helpful to be proactive rather than reactive. Israelis have pretty much championed most methods by being proactive. But one doesn't need to leave the US to see proactivity in use. One can simply look at NYC and see that their drinking water comes from hundreds of miles away to the north of it.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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And lets not forget our friends who want to exponentially expand pot growing... six gallons a day per plant

And we wont even be able to eat as fields fallow out
Outside of this being an off topic barely tangent post. Their plantings are primarily done in Northern CA where there is water.
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