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Old 04-13-2015, 11:39 PM
 
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That's very strange. It was only this month that restaurants were asked not to serve water to guests unless asked. Certainly not last June.

Never paid for a glass of water in CA or any other place.
You sent me a DM and I answered. They definitely asked us. I don't think they were ASKED back then to do it, but they were doing it just the same. And we paid for a glass of water at Robin's Restaurant in Cambria. I don't remember all the restaurants we went to or what happened in any particular one, I only know that they kept explaining that there was a water shortage and asking if we wanted water. We did, because that's what we drink when we go out to eat.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Where the sun always shines
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We went to California last June and were surprised when every restaurant we went to, they asked if we wanted water. And a couple of places if we wanted water, we had to pay for it. And one of those places, what we paid for was a very small cup of water. The hotels also suggested not asking for clean towels and sheets every day to conserve water.

We live in the midwest and water with your meal and clean towels and sheets in hotels are just a given. I wonder if Californians are surprised when they travel elsewhere and see there are no restrictions on water?

Not that it's a bad thing to conserve water even if you aren't at a crisis point in your particular area. I guess I just didn't realize how bad it was in California until I went there.
Been here for a decade and still have never paid for water. And getting a free glass of water in the Midwest is certainly not something to brag about. Whoop Dee Doo. Unfortunately, you still live in the Midwest
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:11 AM
 
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Been here for a decade and still have never paid for water. And getting a free glass of water in the Midwest is certainly not something to brag about. Whoop Dee Doo. Unfortunately, you still live in the Midwest
Um, I don't think I was bragging about it. I was just surprised at the difference. As I said, I paid for a glass of water at Robin's Restaurant in Cambria. I definitely remember that.

I live in the midwest by choice, although I did enjoy California!
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Where the sun always shines
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Um, I don't think I was bragging about it. I was just surprised at the difference. As I said, I paid for a glass of water at Robin's Restaurant in Cambria. I definitely remember that.

I live in the midwest by choice, although I did enjoy California!

Cambria!! For those that dont know, this is some place located between LA and San Fran...essentially in the middle of nowhere. So yeah, I guess they do need to charge for water. Thats probably not gonna happen on the SUnset Strip.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:21 AM
 
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Cambria!! For those that dont know, this is some place located between LA and San Fran...essentially in the middle of nowhere. So yeah, I guess they do need to charge for water. Thats probably not gonna happen on the SUnset Strip.
Here's an article from February 2014 about some restaurants not serving water unless you ask. This is definitely what we encountered, and we traveled from San Francisco to San Diego and were in every little and big town (including LA) along the way. We stayed in Cambria one night because we went to the Hearst Castle.

California Is So Dry, Some Diners Won't Get Water Unless They Ask : The Salt : NPR

And we stayed in Calabasas and were encouraged not to ask for new sheets/towels every day. Calabasas doesn't need to charge for water, do they? And yet they were trying to conserve water just like everywhere else we went.

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Old 04-14-2015, 12:37 AM
 
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It's not easy trying to conserve water.

I used to give my dog a bath in the tub and when he was finished I would take mine in the same water.
Normally I would take mine first but he refused to take his in my dirty water.
lol
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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We live in the midwest and water with your meal and clean towels and sheets in hotels are just a given. I wonder if Californians are surprised when they travel elsewhere and see there are no restrictions on water?
I live in FL and while most places will give you free water I have seen hotels suggesting to reuse your sheets/towels to save water.

I don't have a problem with that. I bring my own towel anyway but I don't think the sheets and towels need to be changed everyday if the guest is the same.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:02 AM
 
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I recently moved to CA . . . from Australia where droughts are a regular and expected part of the weather. Droughts are no surprise here either but everyone here seems to have their head in the sand when it comes to development and infrastructure.

I lived in Brisbane - the capital of the state of Queensland. They had a devastating drought they just came out of a few years ago. And they were in a similar boat when it started - the population growth was quickly outpacing their water infrastructure so a few years into the drought:

They connected the water grids of Brisbane, the Gold Coast, and the Sunshine Coast.
They built a new dam/impoundment for water storage when the rains do come.
They stopped selling potable water to industry and started sending them the treated wastewater instead (no one is drinking it so why would it need to be potable?).
They built a desal plant at the Gold Coast. It's rarely used but good to have in a drought.
They got tough on lawn watering, car washing, and raised the rates on the most wasteful household users. Average personal use during the drought got down to 39 gallons per day.
They required that all new construction have a rainwater storage system on site and use that water for toilets, garden hoses, and pools and they offered subsidies to homeowners who wanted to add one to their existing home.

The Hetch Hetchy aqueduct delivers around 278 million gallons a day to San Francisco and the Peninsula. That covers less than half of the Bay Area population. More than half of that water goes down drains and toilets, gets treated, and sent into the Bay or straight to the Pacific. That's enough water to deliver the equivalent of 4 inches of rain a month to 411 square miles of cropland. Why wouldn't you send that water back to the Central Valley for irrigation?

Why would you not aggressively subsidize low flow shower heads and toilets? It's cheaper than a new desal plant.
The drought here around the Bay isn't nearly as bad as it is elsewhere in the state but all of the water that falls here runs off of rooftops and into the Bay. Why would you not mandate rainwater storage systems for new houses and buildings and aggressively subsidize them for older houses and buildings?
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:03 AM
 
Location: West Des Moines
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Last summer California was not the only place with a drought. I am paying allot for steaks these days because of a doubt in the cattle states. We, here had an extremely warm Fall season as well.
Beef prices are high because, for several years, corn prices were too high to make the raising of beef cattle profitable. Better just to sell the corn instead of feeding it to cattle. And it takes several years to build up the cattle population; do you keep all your heifers for breeding, thereby losing the money you would make by fattening and selling them? Or just keep some of them, building your herds more slowly? A tough call for cattle raisers, and the reason why the beef cycle lasts so long. The pork cycle is shorter, and so pork is reasonably priced by comparison. And there really isn't a poultry cycle.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:03 AM
 
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I live in FL and while most places will give you free water I have seen hotels suggesting to reuse your sheets/towels to save water.

I don't have a problem with that. I bring my own towel anyway but I don't think the sheets and towels need to be changed everyday if the guest is the same.
I don't have a problem with it, either. It was just different than we were used to and took us by surprise at first because we didn't realize things were that bad in CA.
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