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Just curious. If a known shooter (someone that has a gun, and has shot at someone) resists arrest and takes off....what would you suggest as to how to stop that person from fleeing? Let's say it's just you and them. You would just let them go, right?
If someone is fleeing, the threat is gone, since their back is to the officer, there is no need to kill, at that point.
I'm sure they could ID their 'suspect' and find him another day, put out a BOLO.
No officer of the law should break the law under the guise of upholding that law.
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Yeah, sticking your knee on someone's head while they lay on the ground is "self defense". Not buying it.
Lately, police officers seem to make situations worse---such as tasering an elderly woman suffering from dementia. Great stuff there. I am impressed.
If the person on the ground had tried to kill or at least harm the cop, then it IS self-defense. If not, then the cop may have used excessive force and if so, should be disciplined. That's not so hard to understand, is it? Nor should it be hard to understand that cops with an adrenaline rush would sometimes go overboard. In fact, sometimes cops rob or murder people, and hopefully get caught and prosecuted for it. Prisons DO occasionally hold cops, y'know ....... but they hold a helluva lot more career criminals that decent people need protection from.
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Or killing a 12 year old on a playground...
I'm not sure I understand your point here ...... pretty much everyone agrees that was bad, right?
If you hate cops and the criminal justice system, consider this: what if you get mugged so violently that you have to go to the hospital? What if you get raped? What if your daughter is tortured and killed?
In those cases, would you blame the criminal and want him arrested and imprisoned where he can't hurt you or your loved ones again ....... or would you prefer that nothing be done?
Well duh, it's not right to shoot someone running away, and in fact cops were also disgusted by that.
I was just answering a question that was posed to me.
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Just curious. If a known shooter (someone that
has a gun, and has shot at someone) resists arrest and takes off....what would
you suggest as to how to stop that person from fleeing? Let's say it's just you
and them. You would just let them go, right?
If someone is fleeing, the threat is gone, since their back is to the officer, there is no need to kill, at that point.
There is a time and place to shoot a fleeing ARMED suspect who is violent. They could easily turn and fire on the pursuing Cops and is considered "Armed and Dangerous".
Like most things you can't infer All when you make your point.
If someone is fleeing, the threat is gone, since their back is to the officer, there is no need to kill, at that point.
Threat isn't gone. How do you know they won't turn around and shoot at you once you lower your weapon? The threat only disappears when the suspect stops and raises arms, complies with orders to stand down.
Furthermore, the police, unlike the general public, are required to capture someone who committed crime, has a warrant, etc. Crooks know this and that is why it's a very dangerous situation.
I'm not sure I understand your point here ...... pretty much everyone agrees that was bad, right?
Not anyone who knows the facts. That gun had been purposely modified to look like a real gun and the adult looking kid, who had been told to get rid of the gun, was pointing it at people in a park.
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Just curious. If a known shooter (someone that has a gun, and has shot at someone) resists arrest and takes off....what would you suggest as to how to stop that person from fleeing? Let's say it's just you and them. You would just let them go, right?
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Originally Posted by Amythyst
If someone is fleeing, the threat is gone, since their back is to the officer, there is no need to kill, at that point.
I'm sure they could ID their 'suspect' and find him another day, put out a BOLO.
No officer of the law should break the law under the guise of upholding that law.
U.S. Supreme Court ruled that deadly force can be used on a fleeing suspect if ...
"the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." Pp. 7-22. [471 U.S. 1, 2]
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