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Ordered on Amazon, and I look forward to reading it.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I don't believe that it will support your conclusion (that benefits to the herd are 100% the result of controlling poaching) but I will report back on what I've learned.
For sure … The book isn't about "hunting vs. poaching," per se …
It is about the amazing dynamic interrelationships of living things …
Again … I guess we can breath sighs of relief that The Great White Hunters arrived in Africa in the nick of time, saving the magnificent wildlife there from otherwise certain doom …
Why do you continually feel the need to prove your total lack of knowledge? We get it already.
": the activity or sport of chasing and killing wild animals."
What is it you think Palmer did differently?
well, firstly, he did not chase the lion..... he and his guides lured the lion off of protected park land to privately owned, but not licensed, land whereupon the brave dentist gravely wounded the lion with an arrow. Rather than immediately track the injured and suffering lion down and finish the kill, they then went back to camp, had a nice dinner and a nice sleep and waited until the NEXT DAY to even try track the lion.... letting it suffer while they enjoyed their creature comforts........
as I said before.... no more a sport than putt putt golf......
far too difficult a concept for them to wrap their wee tiny brains around......
well, firstly, he did not chase the lion..... he and his guides lured the lion off of protected park land to privately owned, but not licensed, land whereupon the brave dentist gravely wounded the lion with an arrow. Rather than immediately track the injured and suffering lion down and finish the kill, they then went back to camp, had a nice dinner and a nice sleep and waited until the NEXT DAY to even try track the lion.... letting it suffer while they enjoyed their creature comforts........
as I said before.... no more a sport than putt putt golf......
There is a mind set that just doesn't want to know … and it is fueled by strong emotions, hence attack mode against opponents ...
far too difficult a concept for them to wrap their wee tiny brains around......
well, firstly, he did not chase the lion..... he and his guides lured the lion off of protected park land to privately owned, but not licensed, land whereupon the brave dentist gravely wounded the lion with an arrow. Rather than immediately track the injured and suffering lion down and finish the kill, they then went back to camp, had a nice dinner and a nice sleep and waited until the NEXT DAY to even try track the lion.... letting it suffer while they enjoyed their creature comforts........
as I said before.... no more a sport than putt putt golf......
Regardless of the other events, once you arrow an animal you don't immediately chase it. If you do it will run off and you will never find it. Especially if it runs off to private land or Govt land you can't hunt on. Dangerous game can rip you a new a-hole. Only a true moron would chase dangerous game into the bush right after a shot.
What does that have to do with anything? Who "chases" the animals they hunt? Deer are taken from tree stands. Ducks and geese are shot from blinds. Wild turkeys are taken from quiet sitting positions. Hunters many times will wait hours to obtain a single shot at one bird.
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he and his guides lured the lion off of protected park land to privately owned, but not licensed, land whereupon the brave dentist gravely wounded the lion with an arrow. Rather than immediately track the injured and suffering lion down and finish the kill, they then went back to camp, had a nice dinner and a nice sleep and waited until the NEXT DAY to even try track the lion.... letting it suffer while they enjoyed their creature comforts.
First off, when you hunt with a professional on a guided, dangerous big game hunt in Africa, (or anywhere else for that matter), he (the guide), is in total control of the hunt, not you. He decides where and when you are going to hunt. He also makes the decision when hunting dangerous game, what animal you are going to take, as well as where and when you are going to take it. And most importantly, the professional guide also determines where, how, and most importantly WHEN the animal is tracked if wounded. You the hunter must comply with his decisions.
Second. No professional guide in their right mind would track a wounded lion into the brush in a deteriorating, low light condition after dark. They tracked this animal until light ran out. They then resumed the track the next day as soon as light permitted. This was done to protect the hunting party the guide is responsible for. Once again, if you possessed any knowledge of what you speak, you would know this. As you have proven, you don't.
The fact the lion was not killed by the first shot does not make the hunt "bad" or unethical. Especially when hunting by archery. The fact of the matter is most all dangerous game taken in Africa requires several shots to bring down. Also, most all dangerous game have a minimum caliber requirement set by the government of the country they are hunted in. Many times they also require a back up hunter when hunting certain species like lion or Cape Buffalo, because of the danger presented in hunting them.
I feel as if I'm teaching class in hunting 101. You obviously do not have a single clue about any of this. You just don't like it, and as a direct result, you've provided zero fact, just silly, foolish rambling. Along with proving that you possess absolutely no knowledge of the sport you are sitting on the curb crying and whining about. For God's sake do yourself, and everyone else a favor. Stop bothering everyone with this kind of complete foolishness, and get some basic knowledge of the subject at hand. Before you spout off total nonsense about it, proving you don't have a clue in the process. This entire thread has been polluted with this type of silly crap. The reality of this is the only brain that has proven to be "tiny" on this subject is yours.
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Again … I guess we can breath sighs of relief that The Great White Hunters arrived in Africa in the nick of time, saving the magnificent wildlife there from otherwise certain doom …
What does that have to do with anything? Who "chases" the animals they hunt? Deer are taken from tree stands. Ducks and geese are shot from blinds. Wild turkeys are taken from quiet sitting positions. Hunters many times will wait hours to obtain a single shot at one bird.
First off, when you hunt with a professional on a guided, dangerous big game hunt in Africa, (or anywhere else for that matter), he (the guide), is in total control of the hunt, not you. He decides where and when you are going to hunt. He also makes the decision when hunting dangerous game, what animal you are going to take, as well as where and when you are going to take it. And most importantly, the professional guide also determines where, how, and most importantly WHEN the animal is tracked if wounded. You the hunter must comply with his decisions.
Second. No professional guide in their right mind would track a wounded lion into the brush in a deteriorating, low light condition after dark. They tracked this animal until light ran out. They then resumed the track the next day as soon as light permitted. This was done to protect the hunting party the guide is responsible for. Once again, if you possessed any knowledge of what you speak, you would know this. As you have proven, you don't.
The fact the lion was not killed by the first shot does not make the hunt "bad" or unethical. Especially when hunting by archery. The fact of the matter is most all dangerous game taken in Africa requires several shots to bring down. Also, most all dangerous game have a minimum caliber requirement set by the government of the country they are hunted in. Many times they also require a back up hunter when hunting certain species like lion or Cape Buffalo, because of the danger presented in hunting them.
I feel as if I'm teaching class in hunting 101. You obviously do not have a single clue about any of this. You just don't like it, and as a direct result, you've provided zero fact, just silly, foolish rambling. Along with proving that you possess absolutely no knowledge of the sport you are sitting on the curb crying and whining about. For God's sake do yourself, and everyone else a favor. Stop bothering everyone with this kind of complete foolishness, and get some basic knowledge of the subject at hand. Before you spout off total nonsense about it, proving you don't have a clue in the process. This entire thread has been polluted with silly crap like yours.
But … in your post (#1926, above), you insisted that Merriam-Webster has it clearly correctly, that "trophy hunting" is DEFINED as "chasing and killing wild animals" …
So do you think that the guys who shoot from blinds, from cover, using baits, etc., are just "slobs," then, and not true "hunters" …
It's an historical cultural reference … Look it up …
Some of us who have lived for a few decades understand what it means ...
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Deer are taken from tree stands. Ducks and geese are shot from blinds. Wild turkeys are taken from quiet sitting positions. Hunters many times will wait hours to obtain a single shot at one bird. 
