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Old 08-25-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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Wrong. I eat a precise diet with an ideal macronutrient balance. I take a multivitamin just to be sure. I work out...HARD...5 days a week. I lift heavy. I do HIIT. My stamina, strength, flexibility, etc. are all at highly athletic level for a 40 year-old woman.

I know what my BMR is. I net under my BMR + exercise every. Single. Day.

Yet...I've gained 20 lbs in 2 years.

My doctor says my thyroid is low, but not low enough to explain this. My progesterone levels are low relative to estrogen, but again...not enough out of whack to explain this.

I don't have "Faturdays," I don't eat fast food, I don't miscount calories (I weigh and log everything I eat), I don't drink my calories in the form of smoothies, alcohol, fruit juice, soda, etc.

So...explain that.

I'm eager to read what you have to say about my "lack" of discipline.
Easily explained. As you pointed out, that is you, specifically you, not all the others.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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Scientists Discover How the Obesity Gene Works
I had always assumed it was an allergic reaction to an ingredient in wedding cake.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: brooklyn, new york, USA
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I'm not surprised by this at all. I've thought for a long time there has to be something genetic involved in obesity (or lack of it). I'm 6' tall and I have never weighed more than 125lbs my entire life, regardless of what, or how much I eat, or the amount of exercise I get. I simply burn it as fast as I take it in. So I've always asked "what makes me different from someone that will gain weight by just looking at a donut?"
I'm sure diet & exercise play a large role for many people, but for others (like me), it just doesn't matter what they do, their weight, or lack of it, will always be impossible to control. I hope this research leads to some answers & treatment.
that's because you don't eat more than you put out. if you went on a training program, you would put on either muscle or fat within a few months. quite a bit too. and yes, you will add 1 pound per year as you age (on avg.). you may not but likely you will gain bellyfat as your testosterone levels plummet in your 30s and beyond
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:30 PM
 
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I'm not surprised by this at all. I've thought for a long time there has to be something genetic involved in obesity (or lack of it). I'm 6' tall and I have never weighed more than 125lbs my entire life, regardless of what, or how much I eat, or the amount of exercise I get. I simply burn it as fast as I take it in. So I've always asked "what makes me different from someone that will gain weight by just looking at a donut?"
I'm sure diet & exercise play a large role for many people, but for others (like me), it just doesn't matter what they do, their weight, or lack of it, will always be impossible to control. I hope this research leads to some answers & treatment.
Im the same way if I weighed what I ate i should be over 300 lbs!!! but Im not even half that.
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Old 08-26-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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I'm not surprised by this at all. I've thought for a long time there has to be something genetic involved in obesity (or lack of it). I'm 6' tall and I have never weighed more than 125lbs my entire life, regardless of what, or how much I eat, or the amount of exercise I get. I simply burn it as fast as I take it in. So I've always asked "what makes me different from someone that will gain weight by just looking at a donut?"
I'm sure diet & exercise play a large role for many people, but for others (like me), it just doesn't matter what they do, their weight, or lack of it, will always be impossible to control. I hope this research leads to some answers & treatment.
My Mom used to say to my Dad that all she had to do was look at a piece of cake and would gain 5 lbs. Dad could eat the entire cake and not gain an ounce. Dad's family were all thin.

As a kid, my doctor gave me some kind of pill to increase my appetite so I would gain weight. It made me vomit, and I LOST weight. My thin Dad was furious over that. "She will be the way she was meant to be", he said.

As a young woman, people were always saying to me that when I got married, had children, went through menopause, I too would get "fat". Did not happen. I am now 67 years old and still weigh what I did in my 20's which is around 100 lbs.

I agree with you that not only do diet and exercise play a large role for some people, but I do think that your genes also will give a person the propensity to be either thin or overweight. Maybe if your genes favor being overweight, people may need to work harder at staying at a good weight. Maybe thin genes people don't quite have to work at it as much?

Edit: My husband lost 25 lbs. in 2 months on a strict diet. Worried me because what am I going to DO? I certainly didn't need to lose even one pound. I made potatoes or pasta for myself along with his diet dinners. I tried to eat snacks of nuts or dried fruits in between meals just to maintain my own weight. Sorry, but HIS diet was not easy for me at all. We aren't all the same, bottom line.
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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My Mom used to say to my Dad that all she had to do was look at a piece of cake and would gain 5 lbs. Dad could eat the entire cake and not gain an ounce. Dad's family were all thin.

As a kid, my doctor gave me some kind of pill to increase my appetite so I would gain weight. It made me vomit, and I LOST weight. My thin Dad was furious over that. "She will be the way she was meant to be", he said.

As a young woman, people were always saying to me that when I got married, had children, went through menopause, I too would get "fat". Did not happen. I am now 67 years old and still weigh what I did in my 20's which is around 100 lbs.

I agree with you that not only do diet and exercise play a large role for some people, but I do think that your genes also will give a person the propensity to be either thin or overweight. Maybe if your genes favor being overweight, people may need to work harder at staying at a good weight. Maybe thin genes people don't quite have to work at it as much?

Edit: My husband lost 25 lbs. in 2 months on a strict diet. Worried me because what am I going to DO? I certainly didn't need to lose even one pound. I made potatoes or pasta for myself along with his diet dinners. I tried to eat snacks of nuts or dried fruits in between meals just to maintain my own weight. Sorry, but HIS diet was not easy for me at all. We aren't all the same, bottom line.
What is a typical day like?

What is a typical meal for you?

Do you eat in between meals?

How much do you move? Do you fidget?

I am willing to bet that your typical day and an overweight person's day is not the same at all.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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O.K., who has an explanation for this: When I was a child growing up in the 1950's, there were very few obese people. The human gene pool has not had time to change in less than 100 years. Therefore, there is something going on besides genetics in the current explosion in the rates of obesity.

Perhaps it could be the lack of physical activity in childhood which sets the stage for the expression of a gene or genes which was (were) not so commonly expressed back then, at which time we children were all running around the neighborhood playing tag, or badminton, or riding our bicycles. We hiked with the Boy Scouts, swam at summer camp, etc., etc. We were not conscious of any program to keep active - rather it was just the normal way of life.
Sounds like my childhood, not only that we also ate all those things people are told are fattening. When I was a kid if I needed to be somewhere I had to ride my bike, I also had to mow grass, shovel snow, rake leaves etc. starting when I was 9, and on summer trips to Maine I went wrinkling and tub trawling with my great uncle, as a teenager I worked on a farm during the summer, I could drive a tractor on the highway when I was 14. When I got older I got a job running rides at an amusement park 70 hours a week.

Now kids do very little, sit in the air conditioned house and spend their time in front of a screen facebooking. I see more old people pushing lawnmowers than I do teenagers.
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Old 09-08-2015, 02:03 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma USA
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Wrong. I eat a precise diet with an ideal macronutrient balance. I take a multivitamin just to be sure. I work out...HARD...5 days a week. I lift heavy. I do HIIT. My stamina, strength, flexibility, etc. are all at highly athletic level for a 40 year-old woman.

I know what my BMR is. I net under my BMR + exercise every. Single. Day.

Yet...I've gained 20 lbs in 2 years.

My doctor says my thyroid is low, but not low enough to explain this. My progesterone levels are low relative to estrogen, but again...not enough out of whack to explain this.

I don't have "Faturdays," I don't eat fast food, I don't miscount calories (I weigh and log everything I eat), I don't drink my calories in the form of smoothies, alcohol, fruit juice, soda, etc.

So...explain that.

I'm eager to read what you have to say about my "lack" of discipline.
Sister quite-nearly-orthorexic fitness fanatic here.

One thought: Have you researched into and tried various probiotics?

My purely subjective observation is that my gut flora definitely influences my body composition. With one brand of probiotics (ie, one formula of gut microbiota) I comfortably 'lean down' to a basic 116 - 118lbs. With another brand of probiotics, I put on more muscle up into the 120s.

That is all on the same intake of the same (calculated, regimented) foods, and with the same fitness routine.

I have never stayed on the second brand for very long, because even though I do benefit from the apparent enhanced muscularity, I definitely experience increased desire to eat(!) while taking it. And I can feel increased body fat alongside the muscle!

So I go back to "brand A" to get down to a comfortably lean running weight.

I prefer not to give brand names of probiotics, since I do not want to give the impression that I am endorsing one or another brand for weight loss or muscle gain. Because I'm not. At most, the probiotics are a mere tiny percentile of the whole overall human experience of pursuing fitness goals. And every human body probably has its own idiosyncratic interaction with gut flora.

And it would not do any good for someone to experiment with probiotics unless all the other variables were already monitored and remain the same (food intake, fitness regimen) and already at an optimum level.

Best wishes to you. When we do all we can towards our fitness goals, and then some unknown variable throws in a monkey wrench, it is confounding. Our human body is a complex organism, and every piece of the puzzle has a place. For me, I found that probiotics and the whole concept of gut flora was one worth exploring.
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Energy balance equation
Energy In - Energy Out = Change in Body Stores (Weight)1,2

http://evidencemag.com/fat-loss-rule/

In summary, you cannot create fat without excess calories. No calorie deficit = no fat loss.

First law of thermodynamics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...thermodynamics

In other words, some people are convinced we can create an object from thin air.
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