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They will have no effect. They will be chasing their tails because as soon as one account gets hacked another will pop up. About all they can do is go after social media and email accounts, but ISIS is using encryption so Anonymous will have a tough time. BTW, if they hack ANY public sites like that of social media or email they broke the law, never mind a financial institution. I say go for it, but they will end up getting themselves into trouble. Another thing is that experts believe ISIS might be using PS4's and the Sony network to communicate and that is heavily encrypted, Anonymous will never touch them unless they infiltrate the group and have an operative on the inside.
Some say they are third world savages. But with the complexity of their tech communication, they have to be pretty intelligent. I heard the FBI can't even decipher their encryption.
Some say they are third world savages. But with the complexity of their tech communication, they have to be pretty intelligent. I heard the FBI can't even decipher their encryption.
Agreed. I think we would be foolish to underestimate the capabilities of ISIS, err..."Daesh.
OH yeah, I forgot because it was 4 years old that it was true any longer. My bad. Also I believe this was the last big thing that anonymous has done? What of significance have they done in the last 4 years?
Please use your "Industry Knowledge" and tell me how this group is a threat.
Anonymous have hacked and revealed several pedophile rings. Anonymous was also essential in the Arab Spring uprisings.
I understand you are 'Old Guard', but the world goes on. Anonymous aren't some "script kiddies" trolling forums, but experts on cyber security, attacks and hacking, often as good as the experts employed by governments or companies. Anonymous is also a global group, so if the FBI catches a few members, it will not harm their operations. The group is maybe overestimating their capabilities, but it's certain that Anonymous can do a lot of harm. Wars, resistance and demonstrations are not only smokeless powder and rioting these days.
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I guess if they can hack the ISIS databases and get a list of all ISIS members and then hand that over to the authorities and use their credit cards to to send pizza's to refugee camps?
A list of for example UK, French, US and Swedish nationals fighting for ISIS would be beneficial for governments. At least we know who they are after that. As ISIS relies heavily on social media for recruiting, disrupting this is also a small victory. 5500 ISIS twitter acounts have been taken down by Anonymous in a couple of days, a good start.
The dark net is like watching rows of code like in the movies. Most of us never see it coming. But there are those that do. If anonymous can bring isis to the light -good!
Oh and did you really use the security of Sony as a "for instance" regarding uncrackable systems?
Ummmmm......no. But it is obscure. How are they going to know what games are the ones where that ISIS members are in as opposed the thousands or possibly hundreds of thousands where they are not? Answer me that since you wanted to try to make an attack on me with a facetious argument.
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Some say they are third world savages. But with the complexity of their tech communication, they have to be pretty intelligent. I heard the FBI can't even decipher their encryption.
Thanks Edward Snowden!
Also is Anonymous going to do it?
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Anonymous have hacked and revealed several pedophile rings. Anonymous was also essential in the Arab Spring uprisings.
I understand you are 'Old Guard', but the world goes on. Anonymous aren't some "script kiddies" trolling forums, but experts on cyber security, attacks and hacking, often as good as the experts employed by governments or companies. Anonymous is also a global group, so if the FBI catches a few members, it will not harm their operations. The group is maybe overestimating their capabilities, but it's certain that Anonymous can do a lot of harm. Wars, resistance and demonstrations are not only smokeless powder and rioting these days.
A list of for example UK, French, US and Swedish nationals fighting for ISIS would be beneficial for governments. At least we know who they are after that. As ISIS relies heavily on social media for recruiting, disrupting this is also a small victory. 5500 ISIS twitter acounts have been taken down by Anonymous in a couple of days, a good start.
ISIS is taking down Twitter accounts? Interesting...
OK, ISIS is pretty tech savvy for a militant group. But they use Facebook, Twitter and other large corporate sites. Is Anonymous going to attack those sites?
Also how many of these script kiddies know the various languages that are at play here?
One interesting thing I saw last night was that ISIS was using online games and PS4's to communicate. I assume at least some of this is via apps like teamspeak. I am not sure how these kids are going to disrupt this.
You have not offered any realistic way they will have an effect on ISIS either.
It is the most similar project to going after ISIS. Nothing ever came of it.
So you said "ISIS was using online games and PS4's to communicate... I am not sure how these kids are going to disrupt this".
I didn't establish a facetious argument, I responded to what you posted. Watch it on the mud slingin' there Slick, libel is an ugly accusation and an equally heinous act.
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Ummmmm......no. But it is obscure. How are they going to know what games are the ones where that ISIS members are in as opposed the thousands or possibly hundreds of thousands where they are not? Answer me that since you wanted to try to make an attack on me with a facetious argument.
Thanks Edward Snowden!
Also is Anonymous going to do it?
ISIS is taking down Twitter accounts? Interesting...
So I, as a trained Infosec professional, certified by several of the industry leading governing bodies as an authority on information security and someone with 27 years in Information Technology with that past 17 concentrated mostly on security, doesn't convey enough weight when suggesting that Anonymous can be impactful, despite providing several credible scenarios and directly refuting your dismissive description of same as "Script Kiddies". NBC News agrees, but I'm betting you'll blow right past that as well and fallback to your cleverly disguised "because I think so" stance. You'll call it obscure though it's somewhat specific, you'll claim they haven't really done much despite several sources providing actual examples where they have and you'll deflect your being proven wrong by lobbing another distraction statement by claiming I still haven't established my position despite having done so.
You're the very best and worst of social media rolled up into one freakish persona, provocative enough to illicit a series of responses but ridiculous enough to never really contribute anything else.
Anonymous can and likely will be an agent for good in disrupting ISIS, I'm certain of it.
If Anonymous were to disrupt one account, be it social media or banking, or whatever, how is it a bad thing?
Because they will disrupt thousands of innocent accounts, dox a few hundred innocent people and identify them as ISIS, and get people hurt and possibly killed who either were wrongly identified as bad guys or tried to help go after bad guys and were discovered because of the horrible OpSec used by Anonymous.
Operational security, collateral damage, and information vetting are all things that a group structured like Anonymous are horrible at.
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