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Old 11-30-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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You are a convert to Islam and you were born and raised a white American Christian, that's why you don't have an Arabic, Muslim name
Less than 20% of Muslims are Arab. The majority of American Arabs are Christians.

Are Most Arab Americans Christian?
The Detroit News reports that 75 percent of Arabs in the U.S. are Christian. Why is that?

Are Most Arab Americans Christian? | Christianity Today

Although I often pass for white I am predominately Mongol "Lietuva Lipkas" (Polish/Lithuanian Tatar) However these days most people think I am Native America, Possibly because my wife is Cheyenne and we associate mostly with Lakota.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Less than 20% of Muslims are Arab. The majority of American Arabs are Christians.

Are Most Arab Americans Christian?
The Detroit News reports that 75 percent of Arabs in the U.S. are Christian. Why is that?

Are Most Arab Americans Christian? | Christianity Today

Although I often pass for white I am predominately Mongol "Lietuva Lipkas" (Polish/Lithuanian Tatar) However these days most people think I am Native America, Possibly because my wife is Cheyenne and we associate mostly with Lakota.
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You are a convert to Islam and you were born and raised a white American Christian, that's why you don't have an Arabic, Muslim name
Also how do you know you are "predominately Mongol"?
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Also how do you know you are "predominately Mongol"?
Two strong hints, When I was a kid my mother was often mistaken for being Japanese, which was not a good thing as that was in the 1940s. Next indication is I had very sparse facial fur and at most could only grow a Fumanchu Mustache that looked like a wilted caterpillar. But strangely after accepting Islam I grew a full beard, prior I basically never shaved in my life and could not even grow a 5 O'clock shadow.

Another indication is my Family tree traces back to the Tatar settlement in Vilnius were my Grandfather grew up. My grand father on my Mother's side was 100% Lietuva Lipkas and My Mother's Mother was half Lithuanian Tatar and Polish Jew. My Father was 1/2 Tatar his Mother was Tatar, but his father was a Heinz 57
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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But strangely after accepting Islam I grew a full beard, prior I basically never shaved in my life and could not even grow a 5 O'clock shadow.


It's an Eid miracle!
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Two strong hints, When I was a kid my mother was often mistaken for being Japanese, which was not a good thing as that was in the 1940s. Next indication is I had very sparse facial fur and at most could only grow a Fumanchu Mustache that looked like a wilted caterpillar. But strangely after accepting Islam I grew a full beard, prior I basically never shaved in my life and could not even grow a 5 O'clock shadow.

Another indication is my Family tree traces back to the Tatar settlement in Vilnius were my Grandfather grew up. My grand father on my Mother's side was 100% Lietuva Lipkas and My Mother's Mother was half Lithuanian Tatar and Polish Jew. My Father was 1/2 Tatar his Mother was Tatar, but his father was a Heinz 57
I really am not sure I trust this kind of stuff....especially with you being so specific as to identify with the Golden Horde. So many Americans wrongfully claim they have "a little Indian" in them for the same reasons.

Your looks are not unusual at all as this topic has been discussed and studied before. I do not think there is a clear answer but it is not highly unusual for norther Europeans to look Asian.

I am not surprised that your beard has grown in better as you have gotten older. I am a little shocked that you think this is unusual and in some way related to your acceptance of a religion.

Easy to find out with a DNA test. Claiming to be specifically descended from the Golden Horde without proof is the same as non-American Indian people claiming they have Indian in them. How do Indians feel about that?
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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it's an eid miracle!
lol!
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I really am not sure I trust this kind of stuff....especially with you being so specific as to identify with the Golden Horde. So many Americans wrongfully claim they have "a little Indian" in them for the same reasons.

Your looks are not unusual at all as this topic has been discussed and studied before. I do not think there is a clear answer but it is not highly unusual for norther Europeans to look Asian.

I am not surprised that your beard has grown in better as you have gotten older. I am a little shocked that you think this is unusual and in some way related to your acceptance of a religion.

Easy to find out with a DNA test. Claiming to be specifically descended from the Golden Horde without proof is the same as non-American Indian people claiming they have Indian in them. How do Indians feel about that?
However, I do know my Grandfather on my Mothers side was Tatar and that was one of the reason he migrated to the US in 1895. There was considerable persecution of the Tatars even the Christian ones like my Grandfather's family.

As a Boy I was very close to my Grandfather until his death in 1955 just before my 15th Birthday. I still recall his stories of life as a Tatar in pre WWl Lithuania. He was about 20 years old when he Left Lithuania in 1895 and right at 65 when I was born.
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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However, I do know my Grandfather on my Mothers side was Tatar and that was one of the reason he migrated to the US in 1895. There was considerable persecution of the Tatars even the Christian ones like my Grandfather's family.

As a Boy I was very close to my Grandfather until his death in 1955 just before my 15th Birthday. I still recall his stories of life as a Tatar in pre WWl Lithuania. He was about 20 years old when he Left Lithuania in 1895 and right at 65 when I was born.
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You are a convert to Islam and you were born and raised a white American Christian, that's why you don't have an Arabic, Muslim name
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Many churches teach radicalized white supremacy. Should we monitor all places of worship because of what might be said inside?

Total nonsense.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Many mosques in the Western world preach hatred towards Infidels and Western civilization.
It's true.

I've never heard such a thing in a Jewish or Christian house of worship. I've never been to a mosque and have no intention of going to one. To me, Islam is a dangerous death cult.

I hope that mosques embracing extremist ideology are a very small minority in the West. Unfortunately, all it takes is one little scro to get radicalized. One person can cause a lot of damage and destruction, especially when they don't care whether they themselves are killed.
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