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Old 12-02-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Except that it's all in your head because that's where it was stuffed. There have always been super colossal storms and freaked out hurricanes and terrible tornadoes and blinding blizzards and fearsome floods and dreary droughts. They are in the Bible for Christ's sake. Well before the oil wells. None of this is new or worse. We have always had bad storms, we are having bad storms today, and we will always have crazy and seemingly unique bad storms.

We are just hypersensitive to it because of the insane and inane preoccupation with it on the part of the left wing statist-collectivist Capitalist hating, progress hating, one worlding, envy-crazed redistributionists.

So every time a mobile home gets pulled off its pad, it's now armageddonistic AGW climate change here to destroy us all. OH THE HUMANITY!

Only it's a big lie. Just another storm in the ever changing planetary climate cycles.

We've been recording temperatures for a few hundred years and climate cycles are measured in millenniums. No matter how much the idiot University publish-or-perish scientists study their agendized faux measurements, they don't have 1/1000th of the data required to come to a rational conclusion on something as long term and complex as climate patterns. A measured change in temperature in the time frame they are working in is meaningless, no matter how Algorian they want to wax. And that's forgetting the fact that temperature measurement technology even 50 years ago was inaccurate and error prone and virtually useless for comparing with the data being collected today not only from the planet surface, but from the atmospheric column and from space itself.

So the whole thing is a big stupid fad. But the scientists do love it because it allows them to hate on progress, individualism, freedom, Capitalism, and virtue. Opting instead for hateful concepts such as economic coercion, Carbon Credits, statist intervention, and curtailment and attenuation of individual rights.

Well, not on my watch or the watch of others for whom the truth is obvious.

AGW is a big fat evil fraud, and we are going to see that over time. Hopefully the climate scientists can then be arrested for conspiracy, or maybe just negligent stupidity.

Key word of the day related to AGW: Envy. It's all about envy, envy, envy, and more envy.




Amen....the sheeple are so easily fooled.
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:54 PM
 
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With almost all scientists agreeing the Earth is warming as a direct consequence of mans activities combined with headlines around the world proclaiming the highest temperatures on record, i'm inclined to err on the side of caution and agree with the global warming crowd.
https://www.google.ca/#safe=active&q=warmest+on+record

That is just ridiculous. The vast majority of scientists get their opinions from the same place you do: the mass media.
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Old 12-03-2015, 01:02 AM
 
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That is just ridiculous. The vast majority of scientists get their opinions from the same place you do: the mass media.
We arent talking opinions we are talking documented results from much scientific research and peer reviewed publications.
A much more credible source of data and information than the daily unsubstantiated drivel put out by rightwing media.
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Old 12-03-2015, 01:15 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I'm not a climatologist and have done no research into the field so i am left to believe what those scientists in the field tell us eg;=
Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Consensus

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring...al-warming.php

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IMO people who bring this level of study to the issue are more plausible/believable than those few who use only opinion and rogue agendas to refute the findings of the vast majority of the scientific community.
Why the Paris climate deal is meaningless – POLITICO
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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We arent talking opinions we are talking documented results from much scientific research and peer reviewed publications.
A much more credible source of data and information than the daily unsubstantiated drivel put out by rightwing media.
Clumping everyone with an alleged "science degree" together and saying they believe in climate change is the equivalent of asking someone with a degree in "women's studies" a question than can only be legitimately answered by a gynocologist.
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:31 AM
 
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Oh my God! Brilliant!!!!
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Old 12-03-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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We arent talking opinions we are talking documented results from much scientific research and peer reviewed publications.
A much more credible source of data and information than the daily unsubstantiated drivel put out by rightwing media.
No, that's not what you're talking about. When you talk about "most scientists", you're talking about scientists in a wide variety of fields who, for the most part, have no idea what the peer-reviewed publications say in the field of climate science. Most of them also know, from experience in their own fields, that peer review doesn't guarantee that the science is good. They are opinions, and for the most part they are poorly informed ones.

And there is no "rightwing" commercial or mass media.
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/fi...11066_full.jpg

The thin blue line is Earths atmosphere screw it up and all life on Earth ceases to exist. The vast majority of scientists are warning that we are screwing it up.
For those deniers of Global Warming and its predicted consequences what scientific data or research do you rely on to so confidently proclaim its all a hoax?
If there is an AGW problem, you need to look in the mirror to see who is causing the "denial".

Look at the stupid and false polarization you create. You look at it as us versus them rather than a scientific matter, and you set up a ridiculous false dichotomy.

Most of the people who don't buy what you're selling don't think it's a hoax. They're skeptics because they simply have no way of knowing. However, they do know that the salesman is a liar. And he's a stupid and obnoxious liar who tries to browbeat his customers to make a sale. That's not how you persuade someone. You have to show good faith and establish credibility. The Left, however, makes its living off of bad faith and lying.

I don't have time to investigate this personally, and very few people do. About this matter, and many others, we have to get our opinions from someone we trust. And people don't trust Leftists like you, for good reason.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: plano
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For some areas, at least, cold cycle IS ahead! And it does NOT contradict the GW (=Climate change) theory!! If you really read up on it, that is. Just in case.

Again, 'global warming' is NOT just about the warming, it's about all current weather patterns changing and wracking havoc on global economies and taking lives of people on unprecedented scale.


And the weather IS changing because of the initial warming and resulting ice melting, dumping vast amounts of fresh water into oceans, changing their salinity level, which in turn changes all water currants that are regulating the global climate right now, and stabilizing the extreme differences in cold and hot areas of the planet. Without them, it's like heating a wood stove red-hot in one corner of the room, while the other wall never thaws out. Those extremes will, in turn, propel extreme winds, attempting to do the job that water currents previously did (evening out global temps), but


Not to mention rising sea levels (again, due to arctic ice melting), which by itself can (and will!) flood/erase large areas of currently inhabited lands.
Any theory that claims everything weather is caused by it yet ingnore sun acitivity is not credible. Especially when skilled scientist are skeptics and AGW nuts want to shut down discussion and silence those with other views. When the AGW models, they claim models climate change impact and forcast tweather, cant forecast as well as older models like the Farmers almanac which uses the sun activity as one input then its on shaky ground. When government bought and owned scientitsts adjust temperatures (3 degrees C) by more than the amount of increase they claim we have eeen from thermometer era (2 dgress C) and they refuse to make their analysis and thought process on adjustments avalable for review, then its political not science we are getting,.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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That's the key thing. AGW is not science, it is POLITICAL SCIENCE. It's about punishing industry and progress, because left wing ivory tower scientists hate progress and hate industry and hate wealth. Why? Because they are useless welfare recipients who will never amount to anything. They study stuff but don't do stuff, and they hate people that do stuff, and especially hate people who do stuff and make money.

The left-wing AGW movement is about envy, hatred, and stopping, not virtue, productivity, and building.
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