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Old 12-27-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...DAO/story.html

I tried to paste link above, but this sad story is a frank illustration of how welfare benefits are abused. Woman has spent her entire life on benefits. She has never been gainfully employed. Sec 8 pays her rent, even after her kids have been removed. Her alcoholic baby daddy lives with her illegally. She receives cash for her "disability" of addiction, which she of course uses to buy drugs. She converts food stamps into money for drugs. She illegally rents out rooms in her sec 8 apt to dealers, in exchange for drugs. She refuses inpt drug rehab, out of fear of losing her sec 8 voucher. Even though she has lost custody of all her many previous children, she has not gotten sterilized, and dcf lets her keep and neglect yet another two. It took dcf 4 or 5 years to finally remove these last two kids. Can you imagine at what risk of molestation they were put when mother sublet rooms to her dealers? And of course dcf is working on family reunification for this mother and her neglected children.
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Old 12-27-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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I like the states who have made it mandatory for people to be drug tested before receiving/staying on certain benefits. I support this nationwide, personally. Welfare benefits are meant to help people get back on their feet, not support them and their lazy, illegal habits for life. It's a good system in theory but it is heavily abused, which is to be expected quite honestly, which makes it far less effective and worth it IMHO.
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Old 12-27-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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I only read part of the article because it is so disgusting but this is the type of person who is mentally ill (the article says bi-polar), was doomed to start with (child of an alcoholic and a druggie, and was raised in the poorest city in this entire state.)

DSS in this state is always a mess, there is a long history of under funding that results in too high a caseload for the workers to manage. That results in discoveries that are too late--like kids being found dead when they should have been removed from the home to begin with.

This unfortunate soul never stood a chance. From what I read, all she knows is stealing, lying, breaking rules, taking advantage, cheating the system. Her oldest child is in jail so the cycle continues.

Needed is more funding and intervention. I wish some agency could have removed HER from her childhood home before she was damaged. It never happened.
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Old 12-27-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Carbon copy of the life of the woman who sh@t me out.
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Old 12-27-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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I only read part of the article because it is so disgusting but this is the type of person who is mentally ill (the article says bi-polar), was doomed to start with (child of an alcoholic and a druggie, and was raised in the poorest city in this entire state.)

DSS in this state is always a mess, there is a long history of under funding that results in too high a caseload for the workers to manage. That results in discoveries that are too late--like kids being found dead when they should have been removed from the home to begin with.

This unfortunate soul never stood a chance. From what I read, all she knows is stealing, lying, breaking rules, taking advantage, cheating the system. Her oldest child is in jail so the cycle continues.

Needed is more funding and intervention. I wish some agency could have removed HER from her childhood home before she was damaged. It never happened.
Jebus, we've been throwing money at this issue my entire adult life, and the last thing we need is to up the ante. You will never break the chain of dependency by spending more money. That will only make the problems worse. There are solutions but they are all harsh and will likely not happen until some catastrophic event forces them to be implemented.
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...DAO/story.html

I tried to paste link above, but this sad story is a frank illustration of how welfare benefits are abused. Woman has spent her entire life on benefits. She has never been gainfully employed. Sec 8 pays her rent, even after her kids have been removed. Her alcoholic baby daddy lives with her illegally. She receives cash for her "disability" of addiction, which she of course uses to buy drugs. She converts food stamps into money for drugs. She illegally rents out rooms in her sec 8 apt to dealers, in exchange for drugs. She refuses inpt drug rehab, out of fear of losing her sec 8 voucher. Even though she has lost custody of all her many previous children, she has not gotten sterilized, and dcf lets her keep and neglect yet another two. It took dcf 4 or 5 years to finally remove these last two kids. Can you imagine at what risk of molestation they were put when mother sublet rooms to her dealers? And of course dcf is working on family reunification for this mother and her neglected children.
This is what happens when excessive, I hate to use this word, "liberal" bias enters the discourse on social policies. Too much emphasis on individual rights at the expense of collective societal benefit. She should have been forced into drug rehab, kept under surveillance until she is clean, gainfully employed and sterilized. It would have been far better for her, for her unborn children and for society as a whole.
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:03 PM
 
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Jebus, we've been throwing money at this issue my entire adult life, and the last thing we need is to up the ante. You will never break the chain of dependency by spending more money. That will only make the problems worse. There are solutions but they are all harsh and will likely not happen until some catastrophic event forces them to be implemented.
Yes, like a gigantic drug epidemic. I support rounding up all the drug addicts and force them all into rehab. They are not allowed out until they are clean for a certain amount of time and learn a liveable skill.
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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My tax dollars at work! What a waste on such a disgusting, totally irresponsible pig.


Judging by the tone of the article I guess we are supposed to feel sorrow or sympathy for that bloated lump of humanity...I simply feel nauseated.
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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I only read part of the article because it is so disgusting but this is the type of person who is mentally ill (the article says bi-polar), was doomed to start with (child of an alcoholic and a druggie, and was raised in the poorest city in this entire state.)

DSS in this state is always a mess, there is a long history of under funding that results in too high a caseload for the workers to manage. That results in discoveries that are too late--like kids being found dead when they should have been removed from the home to begin with.

This unfortunate soul never stood a chance. From what I read, all she knows is stealing, lying, breaking rules, taking advantage, cheating the system. Her oldest child is in jail so the cycle continues.

Needed is more funding and intervention. I wish some agency could have removed HER from her childhood home before she was damaged. It never happened.
More funding?
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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Money just allows people to continue doing something they couldn't afford to do if they had to pay for it themself. Get rid of welfare for non-working families and for dysfunctional families. We are paying for the results we are getting and wonder why nothing changes.
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