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Old 02-02-2016, 05:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Ok, I'll jump in.

How is this different than 1939 Berlin with trying to create the perfect child.
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Old 02-02-2016, 08:08 PM
 
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Ok, I'll jump in.

How is this different than 1939 Berlin with trying to create the perfect child.
Big difference between trying to prevent an already conceived embryo from developing a painful, fatal or life-threatening disease or defect and trying to genetically engineer an entire population to look a uniform way for aesthetic purposes.

Like I said, my best friend died of a genetic disease far too young. Trust me, she wasn't ready to go. And my roommate lives a life that has been filled with pain and endless operations from the time she was a baby due to a chromosomal defect. If you asked her that question, well, I think you'd be lucky her disabilities mean she can't manage more than a slow limp, because she'd be looking to clobber you.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:35 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Putting a tourniquet around someone's stump isn't the same thing as playing god.
Why not? If that person would have died otherwise then wasn't it God's plan that he die? Unless it's all predetermined and God planned on that tourniquet being applied. In which case God also planned for these embryos to be genetically altered.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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So are you suggesting that plastic surgery never should have been explored and advanced?
I'm suggesting we learn from the past and not make gene editing optional. Yes, I know its not NOW but I also know how well we humans learn from our collective past.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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Putting a tourniquet around someone's stump isn't the same thing as playing god.
I beg to differ. You are intervening in a situation where a person would naturally die. I'm not suggesting this is what we should aspire to but every act done to stop death, cure illness, etc is playing God.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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Big difference between trying to prevent an already conceived embryo from developing a painful, fatal or life-threatening disease or defect and trying to genetically engineer an entire population to look a uniform way for aesthetic purposes.

Like I said, my best friend died of a genetic disease far too young. Trust me, she wasn't ready to go. And my roommate lives a life that has been filled with pain and endless operations from the time she was a baby due to a chromosomal defect. If you asked her that question, well, I think you'd be lucky her disabilities mean she can't manage more than a slow limp, because she'd be looking to clobber you.
But the issue is that people misuse and exploit technology all the time. Why would gene editing be any different?
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:07 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Once this genie is let out of the bottle, there are going to be lots of people experimenting who perhaps don't have such noble goals.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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But the issue is that people misuse and exploit technology all the time. Why would gene editing be any different?
Then why make any scientific advances at all? After all, somebody could misuse them.

I think there's an argument to be made about developing more and more efficient weapons being morally questionable - after all, those have only one purpose. But when something is developed to fix a problem, the fact that other people might misuse it shouldn't really enter into the calculation. Now, if the act of using the solution leads directly to other problems that are just as bad, then the solution should be reconsidered.

But "somebody could use this for the wrong reasons" doesn't really past the smell test, imo.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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Then why make any scientific advances at all? After all, somebody could misuse them.

I think there's an argument to be made about developing more and more efficient weapons being morally questionable - after all, those have only one purpose. But when something is developed to fix a problem, the fact that other people might misuse it shouldn't really enter into the calculation. Now, if the act of using the solution leads directly to other problems that are just as bad, then the solution should be reconsidered.

But "somebody could use this for the wrong reasons" doesn't really past the smell test, imo.
I don't know. That's my honest answer. I do not know. When we are extending the length of lives without improving the quality of them, what is the point of it all? Just to prove we can? Add that to the very real possibility of misuse of technology and there you have it. I don't know that technological advances are always a good thing. A lot of technological advances have caused just as much as bad as they've caused good.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:27 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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Why not? If that person would have died otherwise then wasn't it God's plan that he die? Unless it's all predetermined and God planned on that tourniquet being applied. In which case God also planned for these embryos to be genetically altered.
We shouldn't have developed cure for any disease in that case. Let just go according to God's plan, right?
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