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Old 02-24-2016, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Makes you wonder about journalism. She was not "Minutes from having her organs harvested". Her parents were considering it IF she was declared dead, which she never was. Stupid NY Post.
Stupid? Nah. They know exactly what they're doing.

They're selling copies/page-views by pandering to their gullible audience, which is just waiting to believe that still-living people are being carved up and parted out (probably so their organs can be sold on the Chinese black market - that's probably tomorrow's story in the Post).
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Old 02-24-2016, 05:58 AM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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Come on people. Nobody is getting ready to take the organs from a patient who is still alive. And they also have to have final approval from the family members. You have like 24 hours or so to be transplanted once you get the call. Timing is critical so prep work has to begin. The family must have time to think about it. The patient/cadaver must be brain dead. Just more media sensationalism. Articles like this is why many don't want to be donors. No DR in this country is going to start cutting before all checks have been done.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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I think she probably would have woken up when they started cutting. I don't think they use anesthesia on cadavers.

Hey! Gimme my liver back!!!

Glad she will survive. Hope they hang the shooter.
As I understand it, they are supposed to use anesthesia for organ donation; I found it very disturbing when I read about it.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:21 AM
 
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Why in the world would they if they're, you know... DEAD?


The "thumbs-up" part isn't true; the rest is. Be very afraid.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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You go, girl! Fight, fight, fight!
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Believing every thing written by the press is like believing every used car salesman. It's been my experience with organ donors that a comprehensive test is performed on the brain that measures electrical activity before a patient is declared brain dead. These decisions aren't made without careful consideration, and I believe that this is yet another example of the press being irresponsible and focusing on the sensational rather then the boring truth.

During a code there is a certain time frame when someone is more likely to become non viable and the code is aborted. They don't immediately go the the OR and have their organs harvested. A whole transport team has to be assembled and only when everything is in place are the organs taken. I've taken care of patients that have been harvested many many hours after being declared brain dead.

Organs are more viable left in the host with high concentrations of oxygen and other drugs to keep the blood circulating. The fresher the organ, the better the outcome for the recipient. I've seen brain dead people last for days on ventilators because the family won't let go. It also takes time to find a match, notify them, and get them ready for the procedure.

I've lost so much respect for the press and their irresponsible reporting. They really are equivalent to used car salesmen in my opinion. Even worse because they inflame the sheeple haters. At least you've got a car that you like that you've paid too much for from the salesman.
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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This isn't the first reported incidence of someone being "mistakenly" declared dead, as several of us have already pointed out, and it won't be the last -- especially as highly prized and valued as healthy young organs are today.


Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message or would like to silence the truth.
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Stupid? Nah. They know exactly what they're doing.

They're selling copies/page-views by pandering to their gullible audience, which is just waiting to believe that still-living people are being carved up and parted out (probably so their organs can be sold on the Chinese black market - that's probably tomorrow's story in the Post).
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Come on people. Nobody is getting ready to take the organs from a patient who is still alive. And they also have to have final approval from the family members. You have like 24 hours or so to be transplanted once you get the call. Timing is critical so prep work has to begin. The family must have time to think about it. The patient/cadaver must be brain dead. Just more media sensationalism. Articles like this is why many don't want to be donors. No DR in this country is going to start cutting before all checks have been done.
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Believing every thing written by the press is like believing every used car salesman. It's been my experience with organ donors that a comprehensive test is performed on the brain that measures electrical activity before a patient is declared brain dead. These decisions aren't made without careful consideration, and I believe that this is yet another example of the press being irresponsible and focusing on the sensational rather then the boring truth.

During a code there is a certain time frame when someone is more likely to become non viable and the code is aborted. They don't immediately go the the OR and have their organs harvested. A whole transport team has to be assembled and only when everything is in place are the organs taken. I've taken care of patients that have been harvested many many hours after being declared brain dead.

Organs are more viable left in the host with high concentrations of oxygen and other drugs to keep the blood circulating. The fresher the organ, the better the outcome for the recipient. I've seen brain dead people last for days on ventilators because the family won't let go. It also takes time to find a match, notify them, and get them ready for the procedure.

I've lost so much respect for the press and their irresponsible reporting. They really are equivalent to used car salesmen in my opinion. Even worse because they inflame the sheeple haters. At least you've got a car that you like that you've paid too much for from the salesman.

there y'all go again.... being all logical and actually knowledgeable.... talk about bursting the paranoid bubbles....
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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All hospitals have to do is stabilize you if you do not have insurance
This.
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Old 02-25-2016, 12:01 AM
 
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Well that's one lucky young girl. She wouldn't be with us if she hadn't given her mom's hand a squeeze. I think she heard what was going on and realized if she was going to save her own life, she'd better wake up enough to do something.
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If for some reason my heart stops: I do not want anyone 'prepping' me for anything just minutes later.
I know that's right!
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