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What she means is that no one offered her a 200K job out of the starting gate and she's mad about it. Princess thought that showing up to class every day was paying her dues.
If she really cared about paying off her loans she would of taken the $60k. Apparently having the "right" job is more important than having ANY job. What did she do during law school, most people intern in legal offices and network, network and network.
She could get a legal job at a non-profit and look into the program that will help pay your loans if you work for a non-profit.
If she really cared about paying off her loans she would of taken the $60k. Apparently having the "right" job is more important than having ANY job. What did she do during law school, most people intern in legal offices and network, network and network.
She could get a legal job at a non-profit and look into the program that will help pay your loans if you work for a non-profit.
first year law students are told they HAVE to get experience as well...legal temping/clerk...something
every successful lawyer I know was working for a law firm when they finished law school and took the bar...YOU HAVE to get experience along with the degree
So she has had numerous temp positions in the last 8 years. And still hasn't received a single job offer? Or has she not received one to her liking? She's already Miss Picky Pants. She was offered a job paying $60K a year and that wasn't good enough.
Stupid crap like this is what's wrong with our legal system. Cases like this nonsense are the reason it takes years to get to trial. The courts are full of this crap.
I seriously do not see how she gets past the fact that she was offered a legal job at 60K.
I do think there needs to be some accountability for law schools implying that their graduates will be able to earn a living. However, it doesn't take a Mensa member to realize you shouldn't go to a bottom tier law school and expect much of anything with that degree. If you can't get into a top 50 law school (I might be wiling to stretch it to top 100), don't bother going. It will be a complete waste of time and money, and you would be way better off doing something else.
The legal field has been oversaturated since the 1990s. But instead of limiting law school spots, law schools took more students than ever, and a bunch of crappy new law schools opened up. The ABA never should have accredited more law schools, but hey, more lawyers means more money for them. A couple of decades of law schools pumping more and more law grads into an already saturated market has resulted in exactly what one should expect: unemployable law degree holders.
There are quite a few post-graduate and/or professional schools (not just law schools) that inflate their employment statistics to justify their insanely high tuition and beef up their accreditation, especially for-profit institutions. They should be held accountable.
It's easy to blame the plaintiff in this scenario. She says she entered this law school and paid its hefty fees because of its "prestige" - which she found did not exist when she tried to enter the profession post-graduation, despite her apparently sterling academic performance.
She is claiming the institution was duplicitous in charging "Tier 1" tuition for what turned out to be a Tier 3 or 4 degree.
The "harm" is that she incurred a huge financial burden on the college's promise (in the form of falsified employment and salary statistics) of quick and lucrative employment based on its "prestige." She will doubtless argue that she could have attended a less-prestigious institution for a lower cost (and a reduced economic burden) for the same outcome.
She isn't blaming the law school for the bad job legal job market, and it won't be a much of a factor.
She is blaming them - and attempting to hold them accountable for - lying.
It's a smart move.
The case will hinge on how much of their data was falsified and whether the plaintiff can prove it. If duplicity is the basis of her argument, then things like her motivation or the depressed job market won't matter much.
If TJLS can't provide quantifiable evidence of in the form of alumna with well-remunerated legal employment, they might lose.
I think what may hurt the plaintiff is the fact that TJSL's tuition is far lower than, say, Stanford or USC. That alone signals that they weren't exactly pretending to be Harvard.
But then she isn't claiming much, damage wise, which may work in her favor. Seeking lower damages - basically the amount she is in debt for her tuition, instead of an inflated amount based on "pain and suffering incurred due to the inability to practice her profession, provide for her family, etc., " will help persuade a jury that the lawsuit is based strictly on principle.
Nice post. I was thinking the same, but, too busy to post as much. My son recently graduated from college, and is (or, I am) fortunate that he was able to have paid for 3 years of his undergrad with scholarships and has a fellowship with stipend now in grad school. Nonetheless, I am acutely aware of the cost associated with university, both under and grad schools, and I can imagine that many schools are watching the present case with at least a bit of anxious interest!
I agree with her. Law schools have been cooking their employment numbers for years. It's fraud plain and simple. Law schools are not the only ones doing this. I hear schools push degrees and majors all the time using false promises and employment numbers. It needs to stop.
Even if the statistics were wrong, they were not a promise or guarantee of future employment.
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