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Old 11-14-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Doesn't this violate the 1st Amendment Establishment clause?
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, they're professionals when it comes to bleeding the best...just like those weirdo fundamentalist polygamist Mormons.

Mormons are not polygamists. Polygamy was banned in the Mormon Church around 1865.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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Mormons are not polygamists. Polygamy was banned in the Mormon Church around 1865.
There are sects of fundamentalist Mormons who practice polygamy. The LDS Church does not practice polygamy only because the state of Utah was forced to ban polygamy to become a state.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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The worst thing that the ultraorthodox communities have done is drastically cut funding for public education (which they don't use) while legally directing public money toward special ed, busing, and other legal funding for their private ultra-orthodox schools. They're working within the law. They are mostly legally on Sec 8, food stamps, cash benefits. They don't abuse the system more than other groups do - in fact, possibly less. But they certainly have been caught abusing the public welfare system.

Their secession to form their own township is probably a great relief to their neighbors from whom they receded, since the ultra-orthodox vote in a block, as directed by their religious leaders. I feel very sorry for anyone secular who was zoned into the new ultra-orthodox town. But they'll probably quickly be able to sell to their neighbors' ever-expanding population, and move.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Mormons are not polygamists. Polygamy was banned in the Mormon Church around 1865.
Key word here is FUNDAMENTALISTS. There are several fundamentalist Mormon sects still practicing polygamy.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Doesn't this violate the 1st Amendment Establishment clause?
No.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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stop giving government $. make people work for a living. no wic for welfare no medicaid no nothing. watch everyone stop having so many kids. that applies to everyone to does this.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Is this going to be a open door for no go Islamic villages in the US. I suppose there will be some lawsuits coming if we don't allow for Islamic sharia law townships. This is not a good thing. Do the hasidic villages have to abide federal laws?
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Doesn't this violate the 1st Amendment Establishment clause?
No, it doesn't, but it does violate a million Supreme Court opinions dealing with the 14th Amendment. I'm not saying I agree with all those opinions, but if we have to live by them, so do they.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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No, it doesn't, but it does violate a million Supreme Court opinions dealing with the 14th Amendment. I'm not saying I agree with all those opinions, but if we have to live by them, so do they.
Not at this point, it doesn't. All they've done at this point is decided to establish a new incorporated community and define the boundaries. That's it.

If, after the government of the new community is established, they attempt to pass ordinances favoring members of their religious group or restricting the activities of those who aren't members, there could very likely be some constitutional challenges. But that's down the road.
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