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According to the CNN video clip, one teacher claims that many of his fellow teachers need to work 2 jobs and/or take up benefits of WIC/food stamps that they're qualified for. Also, their pay is even lower than what's posted since some of that has gone towards paying their benefits. State is saying they don't have it in their budget to give them more than the 4 to 5% raise.
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To this day, I find it hard to still think that being a teacher requires a degree. Regardless, I hope all parties can find a solution that works out for everyone.
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WV is a poor state with a low cost of living. And according to an article in the Washington Post, WV already is spending $11,132 per student for schooling, which is a little more than VA spending $10,060 per student.
The high is Boston, MA with spending $20,502 per and the lowest was Jordan, Utah at an amazing $5,708 for each one!!
I think that we need to figure out a less expensive method to teach our children. Perhaps less teachers and using podcasts to educate and lecture, but having classroom teachers to make sure that the subject matter is understood and to answer any student questions.
And any special ed students in these school districts also bump up the costs considerably since they need specialist teachers and more school attention.
WV is a poor state with a low cost of living. And according to an article in the Washington Post, WV already is spending $11,132 per student for schooling, which is a little more than VA spending $10,060 per student.
The high is Boston, MA with spending $20,502 per and the lowest was Jordan, Utah at an amazing $5,708 for each one!!
I think that we need to figure out a less expensive method to teach our children. Perhaps less teachers and using podcasts to educate and lecture, but having classroom teachers to make sure that the subject matter is understood and to answer any student questions.
And any special ed students in these school districts also bump up the costs considerably since they need specialist teachers and more school attention.
I don't get it, I just looked up some data and you're right it shows that West Virginia spends $11,359 and $6274 of that goes toward salaries and wages. California spends $10,467 per student with $6203 of that for salaries and wages...but California teachers are paid well, so where the heck is the money going in West Virginia? Education Spending Per Student by State
WV is a poor state with a low cost of living. And according to an article in the Washington Post, WV already is spending $11,132 per student for schooling, which is a little more than VA spending $10,060 per student.
The high is Boston, MA with spending $20,502 per and the lowest was Jordan, Utah at an amazing $5,708 for each one!!
I think that we need to figure out a less expensive method to teach our children. Perhaps less teachers and using podcasts to educate and lecture, but having classroom teachers to make sure that the subject matter is understood and to answer any student questions.
And any special ed students in these school districts also bump up the costs considerably since they need specialist teachers and more school attention.
What we need to do is understand that educating our children (the children of the human race) is one of the most important things we can do for our nation to thrive and pay MORE per child. I can think of plenty of places to get the money from without raising taxes.
If you spend time in a well managed class room, I think you would be very impressed by the teachers and sped teachers and paras. They are amazing.
I don't get it, I just looked up some data and you're right it shows that West Virginia spends $11,359 and $6274 of that goes toward salaries and wages. California spends $10,467 per student with $6203 of that for salaries and wages...but California teachers are paid well, so where the heck is the money going in West Virginia? Education Spending Per Student by State
I suspect economies of scale play a role- the average school in California has 637 students; the average school in West Virginia has 374 students. So easier for the larger school to economize on staff and administrative costs- if your high school has 500 students and you have a secretary for the athletic department, you're spreading that cost over fewer students than the athletic secretary for the mega-high school of 3500 students. And with smaller rural districts, you also get situations where you're trying to run a physics class at the high school with only 12 students enrolled in the class compared to 28 students in a section of physics in a California high school. And yet you still have to pay the physics teacher the contract amount and run the class even if it's effectively operating at a deficit in the name of student achievement.
Older buildings like you'd find in West Virginia require more maintenance, and many students in California attend schools in climates where you rarely run the heat or AC during the school year.
If you spend time in a well managed class room, I think you would be very impressed by the teachers and sped teachers and paras. They are amazing.
I used to dismiss teaching as easy, until I married one. Having personally seen how teaching works on a closer level, I now respect what it is they do.
I used to crack all the typical jokes. Summer's off, working til 2PM, etc. Now I see how hard it really is and how much more work goes on behind the scenes.
I'm a senior engineer at a pretty large corporation that works with customers who's names you've probably all heard of.....and I think my job is easier than my wife's. From time to time I help out in the classroom/School with STEM related projects and it's impressive to see some of the things they do now that they didn't do when I was in public school.
I used to dismiss teaching as easy, until I married one. Having personally seen how teaching works on a closer level, I now respect what it is they do.
I used to crack all the typical jokes. Summer's off, working til 2PM, etc. Now I see how hard it really is and how much more work goes on behind the scenes.
I'm a senior engineer at a pretty large corporation that works with customers who's names you've probably all heard of.....and I think my job is easier than my wife's. From time to time I help out in the classroom/School with STEM related projects and it's impressive to see some of the things they do now that they didn't do when I was in public school.
I have had kids for a long time so I have gotten chances to sit in with classes. 90% of teachers have knocked my socks off with how well they manage a class and teach. And I know they go home and do prep in the evening. But I don't know how they do it...even remembering all the names seems like it would be a pain...let alone all the needs of the students, keeping on a schedule, etc. And they just get raked over the coals so often by parents and admins...and the general population who often doesn't value their work. They really aren't paid nearly enough! Or given enough resources. I think people in the US seem to have a low opinion of children, otherwise they would spend a lot more on them (taxes).
And that summer off thing...I had a bunch of friends who were teachers when my kids were little. Every single one of them did a TON of unpaid training in the summer and most worked over summer to make enough to (barely) survive, all while scheduling their work days around their in-service training days.
I suspect economies of scale play a role- the average school in California has 637 students; the average school in West Virginia has 374 students. So easier for the larger school to economize on staff and administrative costs- if your high school has 500 students and you have a secretary for the athletic department, you're spreading that cost over fewer students than the athletic secretary for the mega-high school of 3500 students. And with smaller rural districts, you also get situations where you're trying to run a physics class at the high school with only 12 students enrolled in the class compared to 28 students in a section of physics in a California high school. And yet you still have to pay the physics teacher the contract amount and run the class even if it's effectively operating at a deficit in the name of student achievement.
Older buildings like you'd find in West Virginia require more maintenance, and many students in California attend schools in climates where you rarely run the heat or AC during the school year.
Things are also much more spread out in WV. People kept saying we should run the government like business. Well, one of the first things the new management would do is notice how there's no ROI on these places, and cut out things like postal service. CA is also huge, but you at least have some clustering of large population centers.
Degrees in "Education" are garbage degrees. The best private schools hire people for their knowledge in a specific area. An individual who has a degree in history will be a far better teacher than someone who only knows how to teach—whatever that means. Since there are so many people (at least we read that on this message board) who have degrees but poor jobs, hire them.
The affected school districts should hire temporary replacements and hope that they stay. Let the continually lazy teachers take the jobs at McDonald's. I doubt that they'll last long, however.
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