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Good grief. The bag could be manipulated so that it would fit under one or both of the seats in front of the passenger and her daughter without encroaching either on the passenger foot space "aisle" or the center aisle or the space of the third passenger, if there was one. It was a soft bag designed to be used on an airplane, not a hard crate.
Are you forgetting that there was a dog in the carrier? You cannot just "manipulate" the bag to somehow fit under the seat if it is too big. The dog needs room to be able to move around. There are specific sizes that these crates need to be so they fit under the seat in front of the passanger.
I haven't read everything here but IMO the owner is just as stupid and guilty of killing the dog as the flight attendant. Anyone who would let a flight attendant tell them to put a dog in an overhead bin and does so, is pretty dumb. Get off the plane if you have to, but try to remember your dog is not a piece of furniture.
Are you forgetting that there was a dog in the carrier? You cannot just "manipulate" the bag to somehow fit under the seat if it is too big. The dog needs room to be able to move around. There are specific sizes that these crates need to be so they fit under the seat in front of the passanger.
Yes, that's why she bought a TSA approved carrier. There is more room than you think under there. I used to cram a hiker's backpack full of stuff under there that was bigger than that carrier was, then I'd use it as a foot rest.
Why is everyone arguing when the airline has already admitted procedures weren't followed and the woman did nothing wrong? Don't you think they'd be the first to say if the bag was in the middle of the aisle and presenting a safety issue, or too large to fit under the seat?
Yes, that's why she bought a TSA approved carrier. There is more room than you think under there. I used to cram a hiker's backpack full of stuff under there that was bigger than that carrier was, then I'd use it as a foot rest.
Why is everyone arguing when the airline has already admitted procedures weren't followed and the woman did nothing wrong? Don't you think they'd be the first to say if the bag was in the middle of the aisle and presenting a safety issue, or too large to fit under the seat?
Just a FYI a "TSA" approved carrier, might not be the size requirement for a "United" sized Carrier.
TSA is about being able to view what is in the carrier. It can be bigger then the size of a United carrier.
United's is about if it will fit under the seat on all its planes.
" 'While we were flying, the dog started barking and barking and there was no flight attendants coming. We couldn't stand up because there was a lot of turbulence so we weren't allowed to,' Sophia Ceballos, speaking on behalf of her mother, Catalina Robledo, told ABC 13."
I suspect the FAs had to be seated during the turbulence, too.
The witness said, " 'The pet owner was very adamant that she did not want to put the pet carrier up above,' Gremminger said. 'She was saying verbally, "My dog is in here, no, this is my dog." The flight attendant, in response, really just continued to ask her to put it above because it was a hazard where it was, it was a safety emergency, someone could trip.' ”
I still don't understand how it was a safety hazard if the pet case was pushed all the way under the seat.
But, air lines are getting much stricter. The last time that I was on an airplane I had my purse in my lap and the flight attendant asked me to put it under the seat during take-off. It was a pretty small purse and it fit easily under the seat along with my back pack (my carry on). I do not fly very often but I don't recall being asked to put my purse under the seat on earlier flights.
I wonder if the woman had a diaper bag, purse and maybe something else in addition to the pet carrier and everything did not fit in front of her seat and her daughter's seat. Of course, in that case the diaper bag should have gone into the overhead bin.
...No, the plane was not in the air. It was still on the ground...
From the article linked at the beginning of this thread:
"...The Points Guy reports that during their flight, an attendant insisted that the woman put her dog, which was held in a TSA-approved pet carrier, in an overhead bin for the rest of the flight...."
From the article linked at the beginning of this thread:
"...The Points Guy reports that during their flight, an attendant insisted that the woman put her dog, which was held in a TSA-approved pet carrier, in an overhead bin for the rest of the flight...."
As has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, the information in that article is wrong. It happened before takeoff.
"I just flew into LGA and witnessed a United flight attendant instruct a passenger to put her dog bag in the overhead bin. It was clearly a dog and while the customer was adamant about leaving it under the seat, the attendant pushed her to do so," Gremminger wrote on Twitter.
"Myself and a fellow passenger felt like that was NOT a thing. I am not a flight attendant tho. Maybe they have air ventilation in there that I didn't know about. I tried googling rules about pets on board but didn't have ample time before [takeoff]."
Are you forgetting that there was a dog in the carrier? You cannot just "manipulate" the bag to somehow fit under the seat if it is too big. The dog needs room to be able to move around. There are specific sizes that these crates need to be so they fit under the seat in front of the passanger.
She had an approved carrier, a bag, not a hard crate. They are designed - engineered - to conform to the space under the seat and allow the animal to move.
"The recommended maximum dimensions for soft-sided kennels are 18 inches long x 11 inches wide x 11 inches high (46 cm x 28 cm x 28 cm). Soft-sided pet carriers may exceed these dimensions slightly, as they are collapsible and able to conform to under-seat space without blocking the aisle."
It was the center aisle of the plane that the FA was objecting to, by the way, not the area at the feet of seated passengers.
It was the center aisle of the plane that the FA was objecting to, by the way, not the area at the feet of seated passengers.
Bags cannot block any aisles on the plane, especially the center aisle. If the bag was sticking out into the center aisle, then it was way too big.
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