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Old 03-16-2018, 04:33 PM
 
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Keep in mind that the same sedatives that will relax an animal may contribute to breathing problems (overly "relaxed" breathing muscles), especially if an animal has been disgustingly bred to have certain features (to please some humans that find a feature "cute") that make it already difficult to breathe, such as the breed that the mother/passenger brought aboard the United flight.
French Bulldogs look exactly the same now as they did in the 1800's when they first became popular. There have been mummified remains of a dog called the Chincha bulldog found in ancient Peruvian tombs that look just like it. You make it sound like they are some sort of modern designer dog, they're not.
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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French Bulldogs look exactly the same now as they did in the 1800's when they first became popular. There have been mummified remains of a dog called the Chincha bulldog found in ancient Peruvian tombs that look just like it. You make it sound like they are some sort of modern designer dog, they're not.
Are you saying that no breeders in the 19th century or earlier bred dogs in order to have them look the way they wanted? Dog breeding goes back centuries.

Any feature which is not in the animal's best interest should not be bred into it.
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Feliway.

Yes, cat owners...Feliway WORKS to relax your cat
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Old 03-16-2018, 05:59 PM
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Criminal charges are being considered in the death of this dog. Harris County (Houston) is investigating and will make a decision on whether to file cruelty charges.

Criminal Investigation Launched into Dog's Death on United | PEOPLE.com

I'm really irritated that this Flight Attendant is stating she didn't know it was a dog in there. Everyone around them knew, and one witness was busy googling whether the overhead bin is ventilated when the plane took off and she no longer had internet service.

She knew, and she didn't care. I really hope she gets charged with a crime.

Criminal Investigation Launched into Dog's Death on United | PEOPLE.com
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:31 PM
 
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Criminal charges are being considered in the death of this dog. Harris County (Houston) is investigating and will make a decision on whether to file cruelty charges.

Criminal Investigation Launched into Dog's Death on United | PEOPLE.com

I'm really irritated that this Flight Attendant is stating she didn't know it was a dog in there. Everyone around them knew, and one witness was busy googling whether the overhead bin is ventilated when the plane took off and she no longer had internet service.

She knew, and she didn't care. I really hope she gets charged with a crime.

Criminal Investigation Launched into Dog's Death on United | PEOPLE.com
What?! That would be ridiculous if they charge the FA with a crime. If anyone, it is the pasanger who should be charged. She was the one who made the choice to put the dog in the overhead bin. Just because the FA supposedly told her to does not absolve her from any crime that may have happened.

Its as if no one cares about personal responsibility anymore. Just blsme your idiotic mistakes on someone else.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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It seems like there is much more to this story than what is being reported. And some woman animal lover is perpetuating the story in the media for personal reasons. I think no one has interviewed the flight attendant. I sure would like to hear her story. I’m not a dog lover, but I sure know better than to put any animal in the overhead bin.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:11 PM
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Location: Ontario
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She was travelling with 2 or 3 kids- one of the seats should have had room...
sad all around - if she was too jaded to stand up for her dog, one of the other passengers (or ten of them) should have ... what is the world coming to when we can just sit there for TWO hours and hear something suffer (die)...
I’m wondering, after take-off, couldn’t the owner have stood up, opened the overhead bin and
retreived the dog? Especially if the owner heard the dog whimpering. Probably would have saved it’s life.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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I’m wondering, after take-off, couldn’t the owner have stood up, opened the overhead bin and
retreived the dog? Especially if the owner heard the dog whimpering. Probably would have saved it’s life.
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Then being thrown off the plane is off the table. People reported the dog barked for 2 hours into the flight. How can you not go into the OH bin and check on the dog???? She's as much to blame as the FA who "claims" she did not know there was a living creature in the bag. Can anyone say CYA?
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:12 PM
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What?! That would be ridiculous if they charge the FA with a crime. If anyone, it is the pasanger who should be charged. She was the one who made the choice to put the dog in the overhead bin. Just because the FA supposedly told her to does not absolve her from any crime that may have happened.

Its as if no one cares about personal responsibility anymore. Just blsme your idiotic mistakes on someone else.
On an airplane, Flight attendants are pretty much like LE officers. Once you're in the air, they actually ARE the law.

The FA didn't "supposedly" tell her to do it, she ordered her to, and by most accounts she was the one who physically placed the dog in the overhead bin, despite protests by the family.

The dog owner likely would not know about the overhead bins, and how inappropriate they are for live animals; an FA would or should.

I'm so curious why you are so consistently hard on the dog owner, and not the FA who caused all this?

You're acting as if the dog owner placed the dog in the overhead bin over the protests of the Flight Attendant.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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the FA who "claims" she did not know there was a living creature in the bag. Can anyone say CYA?
Unless a half dozen witnesses step forward and state that they plainly heard the word dog, or that the dog was barking as it was put into the overhead, or that the FA picked it up and it was obvious the dog was wriggling around in the bag, I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the FA. The bag does not look like a pet carrier, and it's quite possible she may have been told but did not understand when the woman was saying it was a dog.
I'll concede it's possible because people do stupid things all the time, but it doesn't make much sense for any FA to risk their job by placing an animal in the overhead, especially if there are witnesses. Have any other witnesses come forth other than the woman with the original twitter post?
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