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Since we're twisting things here....isn't that exactly what baptism is? That baby....causing beef with their original sin. Are we now assaulting babies?
More on point, my memory isn't so good. Could you remind me how Jesus handled moneychangers at the temple?
I"m not twisting anything. It's wrong, period, to pour a pitcher of water on someone who is sleeping. Not only that but it could even result in possible criminal charges since technically it's considered an assault. Regardless of what your religious affiliation is.
Also, while he may not have been harming anyone per say, I wonder, did he smell? .
And you accuse other posters of twisting things? This isn't in the story at all. Read it again. They poured water on him because he was sleeping in Dunkin Donuts and they wanted him to leave. Not because they thought he smelled. And even if he did, it doesn't give anyone a right to pour water on him.
And you accuse other posters of twisting things? This isn't in the story at all. Read it again. They poured water on him because he was sleeping in Dunkin Donuts and they wanted him to leave. Not because they thought he smelled. And even if he did, it doesn't give anyone a right to pour water on him.
What the hell are you talking about? I'm confused...
Also, NOTE: I NEVER mentioned anything about them pouring water on him. My response was to those saying he "wasn't bothering anyone."
Here is what the homeless guy said about the incident.
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“He probably had some personal problems of his own and needed someone to talk to and he took it out on someone else, like me,”
Turns out he has schizophrenia and he was charging his phone so he could call his mom. I guess the guy calls his mom every night.
We use to get a homeless guy who would come into the Kroger and hang out at the starbucks inside the kroger. He would sit outside on the patio or inside if the weather was too hot/cold or raining.
Several times I saw the kroger store manager ask the guy if he needed anything and customers would buy him food and give it to him. Several people there even knew this guy by his name. Eventually he stopped coming by, but while he did, people showed a lot of compassion.
While I think that pouring water on a man is not the best way to deal with it, I have a lot of sympathy for businesses who have the homeless try to use their place of business as a flop house. Having homeless hanging around, sleeping at the tables, using the bathroom drives paying customers away.
This particular homeless man had been asked to leave multiple times and refused. So what is a business to do with him? He's costing them money and he won't leave. In cities with a homeless problem, the police won't respond to complaints about the homeless. Taking hold of his arm and walking him out is assault. How is a business suposed to get rid of him?
A private business is not a public place. It's not the responsibility of a private business to feed and shelter the homeless, especially at the detriment to their income.
I"m not twisting anything. It's wrong, period, to pour a pitcher of water on someone who is sleeping. Not only that but it could even result in possible criminal charges since technically it's considered an assault. Regardless of what your religious affiliation is.
You keep throwing your water and "poor boy" argument at us while avoiding our facts. We've already said we don't support it. Do you agree or disagree that he was trespassing?
I've always like Dunkin Donuts in the past however didn't have any stores in my area after moving. Now there is a new store that Dunkin had opened. I believe the corporate and franchise owner did the right thing by firing the employees involved. There are always better ways to deal with people in a place of business.
A deplorable act on a fellow human being. My heart truly breaks that this is how some choose to treat someone who is less fortunate. The poor man! I'm glad to know that some money is being raised for him in his time of need.
And along with the apology, Dunkin needs to give the man a lifetime of free donuts. They can afford the kindness - it's what they OWE for hiring them
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I"m not twisting anything. It's wrong, period, to pour a pitcher of water on someone who is sleeping. Not only that but it could even result in possible criminal charges since technically it's considered an assault. Regardless of what your religious affiliation is.
See...you just gotta be careful with those absolutes.
About a year ago I went into Subway for a quick bite around 9:30pm. A lady was working by herself and there was an obvious off-rocker OCD guy that kept going in a pattern, ending with typing in things into a keypad. I paid with card just to interrupt him, and told him. It's my turn now. You really need to go home. Is there someone I can call. Who can pick you up? He changed his pattern for a bit, but then resumed the old one. He couldn't seem to speak. He was quite a bit bigger than the cashier. I asked if she needed help. She said she'd had the police come and he was escorted off earlier...but now he's back.
She seemed very nice and caring. She recognized the guy was messed up and didn't want trouble for him but it was obvious that it was destroying her business. I ate there just so she wasn't alone. Soon her husband arrived, thanked me and said they'd take it from here.
What are they supposed to do? Cops have been called and have already responded once. It's now closing time. Nobody's a doctor. Should the owner pay OT to babysit this crazy person after an already down day on sales while waiting for an understaffed police force to show up?
The world we get to live in, where things are nice and working and running is because somewhere, somehow, someone needed to make problems go away. Dumping water is rude, but it's not assault. That distinction is why kids can play with squirt guns for hours but fist fights are broken up immediately.
Legally yes, it can be considered an assault depending on the circumstances. So you are wrong.
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My heart truly breaks that this is how some choose to treat someone who is less fortunate. The poor man! I'm glad to know that some money is being raised for him in his time of need. 
