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This story sounds like a crock. The customer wanted someone to fill the lettuce bowl. So they first asked an employee who has autism (which he couldn't do) ,so the manager, RATHER than filling the lettuce bowl himself, takes the time to tell the customer that the employee cannot do that. Wth? Why didn't the manager just fill the damn thing himself instead of making this an issue. I highly doubt the customer cared which employee did it. This story is creating victims and demonizing the customer for a story.
I'm not sure why you say that. There are many autistic people living and working here in Silicon Valley. They are needed and valued.
If you own a business & you are hiring; an ASD applicant who entered the hiring process the same way everybody else did; should be evaluated the same way everybody else is. This will likely not be the individual who will be problematic.
Yes, the Broad Autistic Phenotype is a valuable asset in the tech industry, the scientific research industry & the Arts ... & many more. And some of us "born BAP" but now HF ASD's even have savant capabilities & are able to contribute while leading a quality life.
We are not representative of the employee who didn't refill the lettuce bowl. We are not representative of Autism; period. We "might" be 10% of the ASD population but:
-50% of us are non-verbal.
-1/3rd of us have seizure disorders.
-28% of children with ASD are self-injurious.
- We are seven times more like to be sexually assaulted.
-Our life expectancy is age 36, due to accidental deaths.
So yes; from one HF ASD to the neurotypical world: You take on a lot; when you take on an ASD person. Whether it be for school, caregiving, employment, etc... you assume a lot of responsibility.
I believe this restaurant owner hired through Goodwill or another agency, meaning that they knowingly were not hiring high-functioning autistics. There is no way for a customer to know that they have approached an autistic employee; unlike Down's. Heck; if "ignoring" was all that happened, they got off easy.
It would help if people knew what autism really is but there is too much depathologizing & romanticizing going on. I don't have to say why; do I?
These two HF ASD's (& one Neurologist) explain it better than I do:
Yes, romanticizing. Good word.
I didn't take my bag of groceries after the guy bagging them cut his hand and bled on my food. All the cashier said was "Someone show Johnny where to get a bandaid". Well he was a lovely man who gave me a dirty look and got mad when I said I wasn't taking that bag with blood on it home. And no, I don't think he's contagious! I want my things without someone's blood on them.
It isn't necessary to point out that someone hires "all of God's children, if we're ALL God's children, then of course everyone gets hired.
I don't feel it's so greatly 'charitable' when one is profiting on their charity, (directly getting paid to hire, not just a credit or write off) and publicly patting themselves on the back for the equality they display...
If you own a business & you are hiring; an ASD applicant who entered the hiring process the same way everybody else did; should be evaluated the same way everybody else is. This will likely not be the individual who will be problematic.
Yes, the Broad Autistic Phenotype is a valuable asset in the tech industry, the scientific research industry & the Arts ... & many more. And some of us "born BAP" but now HF ASD's even have savant capabilities & are able to contribute while leading a quality life.
We are not representative of the employee who didn't refill the lettuce bowl. We are not representative of Autism; period. We "might" be 10% of the ASD population but:
-50% of us are non-verbal.
-1/3rd of us have seizure disorders.
-28% of children with ASD are self-injurious.
- We are seven times more like to be sexually assaulted.
-Our life expectancy is age 36, due to accidental deaths.
So yes; from one HF ASD to the neurotypical world: You take on a lot; when you take on an ASD person. Whether it be for school, caregiving, employment, etc... you assume a lot of responsibility.
I believe this restaurant owner hired through Goodwill or another agency, meaning that they knowingly were not hiring high-functioning autistics. There is no way for a customer to know that they have approached an autistic employee; unlike Down's. Heck; if "ignoring" was all that happened, they got off easy.
It would help if people knew what autism really is but there is too much depathologizing & romanticizing going on. I don't have to say why; do I?
These two HF ASD's (& one Neurologist) explain it better than I do:
This was a high functioning employee. You’re missing the whole point it was not his job to fill the lettuce bowl that is the whole point. This business owner has a lot of experience in hiring special-needs employees. 10 out of her 16 employees are all special needs.
Yes, romanticizing. Good word.
I didn't take my bag of groceries after the guy bagging them cut his hand and bled on my food. All the cashier said was "Someone show Johnny where to get a bandaid". Well he was a lovely man who gave me a dirty look and got mad when I said I wasn't taking that bag with blood on it home. And no, I don't think he's contagious! I want my things without someone's blood on them. ...
I'd get a refund. I wouldn't take food with blood on it either.
I'd get a refund. I wouldn't take food with blood on it either.
Yeah, I put what didn’t have blood on it in a clean bag and brought it all up to customer service with the receipt. They “let” me go and get replacement items. No one apologized or realized how absurd. I saw the same young man acting in a rude manner on other occasions, maybe that’s just his personality, or his abilities don’t include empathy.
Which is my point. It doesn’t seem like a good fit for customer service though, and so why not give the job to one of the local teens or others who need a job? Was there an interview process, is there discrimination, who’s best qualified? What’s the gain in picking least qualified, which may make a business lose customers? It’s easy to say: “If you don’t like it go somewhere else” when there’s financial gain in keeping the employee unable to perform as satisfactorily as the other applicants. Business owners are in it for profit.
Yeah, I put what didn’t have blood on it in a clean bag and brought it all up to customer service with the receipt. They “let” me go and get replacement items. No one apologized or realized how absurd. I saw the same young man acting in a rude manner on other occasions, maybe that’s just his personality, or his abilities don’t include empathy.
Which is my point. It doesn’t seem like a good fit for customer service though, and so why not give the job to one of the local teens or others who need a job? Was there an interview process, is there discrimination, who’s best qualified? What’s the gain in picking least qualified, which may make a business lose customers? It’s easy to say: “If you don’t like it go somewhere else” when there’s financial gain in keeping the employee unable to perform as satisfactorily as the other applicants. Business owners are in it for profit.
This boy did not have a customer service job. The customer tried to make him have a customer service job. He tried to make him refill the lettuce bowl even though that was not his job or not what he was trained for. For all we know he was mopping the floor. This guy does have non-disabled people working there too.
For all we know he was mopping the floor. This guy does have non-disabled people working there too.
For all we know the employee was filling the tomato bowl. We don't know, let's assume he had a normal request, received a rude or condescending reply, by either the "boy" or manager, and that's why he replied that they should put a sign up. So others know not to request things like lettuce at the salad bar from an employee at the restaurant. Let's assume the customer was also high functioning.
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