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Old 06-18-2019, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I don't understand this.

All 4 of our cars are keyless, and all different makes. Never had an issue turning the car off.

Drive into garage/shift into Park/push button to turn car off

Why is that so hard?
It's not that it's "hard." It's that for someone who has done it a different way for decades, it's easier to forget "the new way," especially if 1) the car's engine is super quiet, and 2) the carbon monoxide is odorless and colorless (it is) and 3) he was headed for bed anyway. Carbon monoxide poisoning is actually a very pleasant way to "go." You don't even notice it - you just fall asleep peacefully.

So if he didn't have carbon monoxide detectors, it's easy to see how this happened to me.

Please please please invest in some cheap carbon monoxide detectors!
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Old 06-18-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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Not the same but I have had a backup camera for years now and sometimes I completely forget its there. Just the fact I learned to drive and spent most of my life without one makes it "hard" not to do things the old way.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I recently drove one of those new keyless cars, and found it very confusing. How did we get so dumb that we can't figure out how to use a key any more ?
Some older people or people with disabilities, while safe drivers, find it painful and/or difficult to use keys to start/stop cars because of arthritis and/or weakness in their hands and fingers. In my old car, I needed to twist my arm & wrist & fingers at funny angles ("funny"/odd/painful for me) to inset the key, turn the key and start the car. I love the push button start on my car. I should of had one years ago.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:08 PM
 
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I recently drove one of those new keyless cars, and found it very confusing. How did we get so dumb that we can't figure out how to use a key any more ?
Dumb? It's just another convenience not having to take the key out your pocket to start the car or lock it.

You had a difficult time pushing a button?
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Buy an electric car. Not a hybrid or something else with an internal combustion engine.

Electric cars have push button starts. It's possible to pick up a three year old Nissan Leaf lease return for less than $10,000 most places.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:14 AM
 
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Same here, we have a new VW that is quiet as a mouse and it is my first keyless. The radio remains on and I have caught myself hitting the button more than once.
That's what I've done. The first time you hit it you turn it off, the next time you hit it you're turning it back on and it's very quiet. Last summer my car ran for almost two hours outside a restaurant because of this. About every ten years I used to lock my keys in the car but every time it was because I changed my routine in shutting down and getting out; like finishing paperwork or getting a jacket from the back. That's what happened at the restaurant too.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:45 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm reading this! I had accidental carbon monoxide poisoning from a faulty heater when I was in my late twenties, and I was passed out on the floor in the living room and woke up to the most terrible voice (stern, very stern) saying quietly but urgently "GET. UP. GET. UP." Oh, how I didn't want to get up - it felt wonderful just laying there, on the floor! But finally I couldn't resist that voice and I dragged myself up. My head was pounding and the palms of my hands were a bright red, I remember that very clearly. I thought my head was going to explode. I honestly thought I was having an aneurysm or something.

I too had to crawl to the phone to call 9-1-1 and then when they asked my address, I was so disoriented that I couldn't remember it and said "Hold on," very slowly and crawled outside to look at the street sign and the house numbers. I really couldn't see anything wrong with that scenario. Of course, they could trace the call but I think they were trying to determine if I was cognizant - which I clearly wasn't.

My entire family spent the next five days in the hospital having hyperbaric treatments.
What?! OMG, I can't believe I'm reading this either! I almost didn't mention the voice part but if I hadn't, I was afraid people might think it's just something easy to walk away from & therefore; underestimate it. I would rather mention it & have people think I was looney tunes than to give folks a false sense of security.

And you are right about how good it feels just laying there; very seductive. You don't feel like you are dying until you try to move. But I wouldn't have moved; had I not been told to.

I've got to show this to my dad; ever since this happened to me he's always worried about it happening again. He even just bought me a new alarm. It's just that people looked at me so weird when they would ask me; "How did you know to get out of there?" And my answer was "Because somebody told me to".
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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Never had a keyless door car or been in one.

Interesting.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Do none of these cars squawk when the driver releases the seat belt while the engine is running? I can see all of the above problems being real for drivers not thoroughly conditioned past the step of physically turning the car off and removing the keys, but a seat belt warning should be a pretty strong clue you've forgotten something.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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Do none of these cars squawk when the driver releases the seat belt while the engine is running? I can see all of the above problems being real for drivers not thoroughly conditioned past the step of physically turning the car off and removing the keys, but a seat belt warning should be a pretty strong clue you've forgotten something.
My experience tells me that the car now makes so many noises for so many things that this one just gets lost in the cacophony. We're being conditioned to ignore these sounds because so many are meaningless to us.
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