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Old 01-28-2020, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Well of course. That’s what I said. NO ONE.
I was agreeing with you.

 
Old 01-28-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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The lawyer has already been making the argument that "x number of people have gone overboard from RCL ships" or words to that effect. Not sure what the parents' motivation is, but he's 100% going for RCL's pocketbook.
Thousands upon thousands of cruises have taken place by many lines. Sometimes, people fall overboard, or they jump. They can do it from their balconies outside their staterooms. Should these cruise lines board up all of the balconies? Put glass over them? It would completely destroy the entire reason so many people book staterooms with balconies.

We can't put a bubble wrap around everything based on the actions of a few.

The cruise lines (plural, not just Royal Caribbean) won't go for it, so this lawyer is going to have a hell of a fight on his hands if that's what he's going for.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 04:27 PM
 
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What gets me is why is the cruise line going to remodel that area all of a sudden? While the case is ongoing, I don't think they should be allowed to touch it, especially if there is a jury trial. Every juror should be allowed access to the area to see it for themselves and to try to lean over.
They're refurbishing the childrens splash pad area. It has nothing to do with this case. She didn't die in the splash pad. She didn't die in the children's area. She died because grandfather dropped her out a window on the 11th deck. RC is not going to suddenly take out the windows and enclose the pool deck. Those will stay the same. To keep pools looking nice and fresh, they need to be redone every now and then. They cannot put off retiling the children's splash pad because some idiot decided that the laws of gravity don't apply to him.

If the jury ends up on the ship, they'll still be able to lean over the railing and stick their heads out the window despite the splash pad having new tiles.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 04:43 PM
 
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Or would there still be an outcry for them to turn on grandpa, and state that he is solely at fault and they were wrong to have trusted him with their child?
He killed their child. They should want nothing to do with him. it's disturbing that they're going to such lengths to defend the person who is soley responsible for the death of their child. They should never have trusted him, especially now that they are claiming he's this elderly man with all sorts of health problems that prevented him from properly caring for Chloe.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Western MA
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
Thousands upon thousands of cruises have taken place by many lines. Sometimes, people fall overboard, or they jump. They can do it from their balconies outside their staterooms. Should these cruise lines board up all of the balconies? Put glass over them? It would completely destroy the entire reason so many people book staterooms with balconies.

We can't put a bubble wrap around everything based on the actions of a few.

The cruise lines (plural, not just Royal Caribbean) won't go for it, so this lawyer is going to have a hell of a fight on his hands if that's what he's going for.
So right. Who would want to take a cruise where you can't even feel the breeze? Not very appealing.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Western MA
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He killed their child. They should want nothing to do with him. it's disturbing that they're going to such lengths to defend the person who is soley responsible for the death of their child. They should never have trusted him, especially now that they are claiming he's this elderly man with all sorts of health problems that prevented him from properly caring for Chloe.
Maybe it's the only way they can emotionally deal with it. It's easier and (presumably) less painful to blame a faceless corporation.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 05:26 PM
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He killed their child. They should want nothing to do with him. it's disturbing that they're going to such lengths to defend the person who is soley responsible for the death of their child. They should never have trusted him, especially now that they are claiming he's this elderly man with all sorts of health problems that prevented him from properly caring for Chloe.
And there it is.

Blaming the parents.
 
Old 01-28-2020, 05:32 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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And there it is.

Blaming the parents.
I don't understand why you believe it wrong to assign some blame to the parents?
 
Old 01-28-2020, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And there it is.

Blaming the parents.
If the grandfather is as incompetent as they are claiming, shouldn't the parents be responsible for allowing him to take care of the baby?
 
Old 01-28-2020, 05:41 PM
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If the grandfather is as incompetent as they are claiming, shouldn't the parents be responsible for allowing him to take care of the baby?
There was zero evidence, leading up to this incident, that the grandfather had ever made unsound decisions.

So, no, the parents shouldn't be responsible for being clairvoyant and knowing this would happen.

By all accounts, this was completely out of character.

(Leading me to question upthread the possibility that he may have the beginnings of frontal lobe dementia. Who knows.)
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