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Folks, it's not cute or funny to do this 'dangling over the precipice of death' act with a child. Just don't.
THAT (the above) is what people should take away from this tragedy.
A very long time ago when I was a girl, my family was with a couple of my parents' friends who had ab infant -- probably less than four months old, if memory serves. We all went to the Redondo Beach, CA pier, and the very young dad held the baby OVER the water which was probably at least ten feet deep, minimum. My mom had a fit -- read the guy the riot act. He shrugged it off by saying he had a firm grip, and nothing bad happened, but really -- why would anyone take a risk like that?!
But, yes, I do agree with everyone who said that the grandfather will live with the guilt and the baby's family will live with the effects of that tragedy for the rest of their lives.
THAT (the above) is what people should take away from this tragedy.
A very long time ago when I was a girl, my family was with a couple of my parents' friends who had ab infant -- probably less than four months old, if memory serves. We all went to the Redondo Beach, CA pier, and the very young dad held the baby OVER the water which was probably at least ten feet deep, minimum. My mom had a fit -- read the guy the riot act. He shrugged it off by saying he had a firm grip, and nothing bad happened, but really -- why would anyone take a risk like that?!
But, yes, I do agree with everyone who said that the grandfather will live with the guilt and the baby's family will live with the effects of that tragedy for the rest of their lives.
Sounds like this may have been before the pier burned down. If so, it has been completely rebuilt.
My dad used to do stunts with us when we were small children, but within reason. He would balance and lift us up in the air on the palm of one hand, toss us up and catch us, that sort of thing. But never in a place where a slip or misstep would have caused certain death or maiming.
So I'm reading that the grandfather just set the girl in the window, didn't dangle her over it...still not a prudent choice. I'm sure no one believes he meant to harm a hair on her head, but an open window on deck 10 or 11 of a cruise ship? Not my idea of a prudent place to set my child.
I have seen people do the same thing with their kids at the Grand Canyon hold their kids by the waist and have them stand on the railing. Should the cruse ship make the windows so they can't open people should know better.
Another question has to be answered is was the grandfather drinking cruise ships are known for alcohol, and always bars right at the ports. If he was drinking my guess he face manslaughter charge.
So I guess we don’t know if he was ‘dangling’ the baby or not? What a strange detail to get mixed up. I wonder if he tried to catch her but lost his grip?
That would appear to an onlooker, maybe; as if the baby were being ‘dangled’.
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How is that a relief? Either way the little girl died because of her grandfather's carelessness.
Well, speaking only for myself, that would be a relief. 1 year olds do that, and absolutely no one else is to blame for it. You're holding them, carefully, and then, suddenly and with zero warning, they fling themselves backwards out of your arms.
It doesn't make the death of the child less sad; but it makes the grandparent much less culpable.
No one could blame the grandparent in that instance, and the grandparent would be less likely to blame himself entirely.
Well, speaking only for myself, that would be a relief. 1 year olds do that, and absolutely no one else is to blame for it. You're holding them, carefully, and then, suddenly and with zero warning, they fling themselves backwards.
It doesn't make the death of the child less sad; but it makes the grandparent much less culpable.
If you're holding them carefully, no a child does not just fall 11 stories to their death.
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If you're holding them carefully, no a child does not just fall 11 stories to their death.
We don't know what the whole story is; however, yes, a one year old can fling themselves backward unexpectedly out of nowhere.
My one year old son got a concussion in the church nursery; and I'm very sure the adult volunteer, who was a nurse, was carrying him carefully. He did that backwards flinging thing for some reason.
Maybe we shouldn't judge, until all the information is out?
This isn't a 2 month old, where I would absolutely agree with you. This is a mobile kid who can struggle away. FAST.
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