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Well, she must have done some reconnaissance during the day, then, or in the early morning when the air was still cool, before tucking in for a nap. She'd want to try to figure out where she was, which wasn't doable at night.
She wasn't doing too well at that, was she? If she'd had any idea what direction to hike in, she would have been back at the road in an hour or two. I would have more respect for her as an "experienced hiker" if she would come out and say, "Once I realized I was lost, I decided to stay put by the first water I found and wait for rescuers." That would be sensible, instead of all this nonsense about "traveling" by night when she wasn't going anywhere, actually.
That description sounds like it would be a guy who was out there camping or hiking and is now long gone, not someone who was living out there. If, in fact, the story is true. There was no one else for miles around except a rapist with a knife who just happened to be right there hovering near the tree where she went to pee. How convenient.
Yes, that's what I thought too. He had a backpack and a long sleeve shirt.
Maybe he startled her, maybe she started to fall from her squatting position and he grabbed her arm to help her, then apologized and went on his way. Could she have misinterpreted an innocent encounter in the woods because she didn't expect to see anyone?
If there were scatches on her wrists, she could have done it herself. Any why no footprints of attacker nearby. Why no screams that her husband would hear. Why couldnt tracking dogs locate her?
I don't know what happened but i am thinking a planned scam to get money from Go Fund Me, and notariety.
She wasn't doing too well at that, was she? If she'd had any idea what direction to hike in, she would have been back at the road in an hour or two. I would have more respect for her as an "experienced hiker" if she would come out and say, "Once I realized I was lost, I decided to stay put by the first water I found and wait for rescuers." That would be sensible, instead of all this nonsense about "traveling" by night when she wasn't going anywhere, actually.
Not only that but the risk of being bitten by a rattlesnake increases a hundred fold. They are out at night hunting and you won't see them until you step on one and get bitten. They don't always rattle to warn you.
For one, the road they drove in on - White Mountain Road - is paved at that point. It is also a road that runs roughly north-south (did she have no idea at all where they had driver?). And the campground is on the west side of the road. Given those two facts, had she just keep bearing east she would have found the road soon enough. And just a mile east of White Mountain Road is a forest road at the bottom of Black Canyon, so she couldn't get all that far from pavement. The articles state that there was no cell service (no surprise), and that implies that she had a phone but couldn't get a signal. But my iPhone has a compass - don't all smart phones? And the compass doesn't need a signal to work. She didn't even need a compass; in the morning when the sun comes up, just head east. You don't need the precision of a compass to move generally east in the direction of the rising sun. The land isn't that rugged where any ambulatory person couldn't have made it there in an hour or two, much less an 'experienced hiker'.
Furthermore, the slopes above Black Canyon are steep, but nothing to stop an 'experienced hiker'. And once she'd found a road leading downhill in a canyon bottom, that's a no-brainer - follow it, and it will lead out of the hills. And sure enough, a mere six miles down the road it emerges from the canyon onto fan in Owens Valley, overlooking US 395. And given the search, she'd probably have been found a lot sooner had she been on a forest road.
Had she possessed even rudimentary hiking skills, she'd have been out of the wilderness no later than Saturday afternoon.
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Originally Posted by marino760
Not only that but the risk of being bitten by a rattlesnake increases a hundred fold. They are out at night hunting and you won't see them until you step on one and get bitten. They don't always rattle to warn you.
Rattlesnakes are most certainly not out at night at 8500'. They're cold-blooded, and the nights up there are cool. In fact, if there's any rattlesnakes at all at that elevation, they are few and far between. The Panamint Rattler is found in the Whites, but its range is listed at a maximum of 7900'. I don't think there are any other species of rattlers in the Whites.
For one, the road they drove in on - White Mountain Road - is paved at that point. It is also a road that runs roughly north-south (did she have no idea at all where they had driver?). And the campground is on the west side of the road. Given those two facts, had she just keep bearing east she would have found the road soon enough. And just a mile east of White Mountain Road is a forest road at the bottom of Black Canyon, so she couldn't get all that far from pavement. The articles state that there was no cell service (no surprise), and that implies that she had a phone but couldn't get a signal. But my iPhone has a compass - don't all smart phones? And the compass doesn't need a signal to work. She didn't even need a compass; in the morning when the sun comes up, just head east. You don't need the precision of a compass to move generally east in the direction of the rising sun. The land isn't that rugged where any ambulatory person couldn't have made it there in an hour or two, much less an 'experienced hiker'.
Furthermore, the slopes above Black Canyon are steep, but nothing to stop an 'experienced hiker'. And once she'd found a road leading downhill in a canyon bottom, that's a no-brainer - follow it, and it will lead out of the hills. And sure enough, a mere six miles down the road it emerges from the canyon onto fan in Owens Valley, overlooking US 395. And given the search, she'd probably have been found a lot sooner had she been on a forest road.
Had she possessed even rudimentary hiking skills, she'd have been out of the wilderness no later than Saturday afternoon.
Rattlesnakes are most certainly not out at night at 8500'. They're cold-blooded, and the nights up there are cool. In fact, if there's any rattlesnakes at all at that elevation, they are few and far between. The Panamint Rattler is found in the Whites, but its range is listed at a maximum of 7900'. I don't think there are any other species of rattlers in the Whites.
Thanks for pointing that out. I thought she was at a lower elevation.
My longtime companion is buried in Bishop so I am out there all the time and I do not understand any of this . I usually am willing to consider the possibilities but this just sounds really off the hook .
Again, just to keep the facts straight, the dog is a Yorkipoo not a malitpoo.
I don't know anything about maltese.
But Yorkshire Terriers like all terriers do have good noses. They are not bloodhounds and aren't used for working dogs that require scent capabilities, but they do have good noses.
I have seen my Scottish Terrier track my husbands footprints in the house to find him rather than just go to the usual places my husband might be. Obviously, the dog thinks that's more efficient.
I also learned the hard way not to pay attention when they are sniffing around. Snake in a flower pot, lizard under furniture, huge bug behind the curtains...…….all causing the dog to sniff around.
That being said, not sure how any dog would just smell their owner "wafting" through the air 200 yds away.
Unless the dog was 200 yds behind and following the path the owner took...…….maybe......I dunno.
If the dog was basically a bloodhound, then when it broke free of its leash why did it not just go to her 200 yards away?
It wandered around until it was found and then suddenly remembered it wanted to go find its owner?
Better story to have the bad guy show up again and the little dog bravely chased him away. On his way back to mommy, he ran into the searchers and led them to her location.
I hope the media pumps this up and gets her and her family all excited so they go even further and more dramatic with their tale. The more they say, the funnier it gets. this thread is more fun than the crazy stuff int eh politics threads.
back to the ird idea. Maybe the guy was one of those Bird human people from the James Patterson books. He was suddenly there at that particular moment because he saw her from the sky and dropped out of the air to accost her. then when she ran away he sensed one of the wolf people coming and flew off - hence no trace of him and not footprints.
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They don't always rattle to warn you.
