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Guessing they are attempting to "get back" at the mother by taking the kids life as well. Since no one would miss them. So f'ed up.
I've never thought about that. My god, maybe this happens so frequently where the sociopath murdering husband knows it will force her to think of him each hour of every day when she longs for her child.
We need greater penalties for all crimes. A slap on the wrist is ineffective and only results in more of the same.
We need greater penalties for all crimes. A slap on the wrist is ineffective and only results in more of the same.
What type of penalty do you suggest for a dead man? If these types of people are planning on killing themselves as well, no type of threat will be able to stop it.
I think that there is a weird mechanism that they cannot bring themselves to kill themselves (maybe they have tried, but just couldn't take that final step) unless they first take out a loved one, and then the finality of that act allows them to take their own lives.
I wonder.
There is enough of a phenomenon of this kind of thing that they have a term for them, "family annihilators." I used to worry that my ex might do something like this, at times. He'd attempted suicide and talked about it, but often said he "just couldn't bring himself to pull the trigger." Then he'd be threatening to burn the house down or something.
Really glad I got away from him with nobody dying.
Glad you did, too.
Was his name Chris?
Family annihilators: Chris Watts, Chris Coleman, Chris Longo...it's become almost a rule, like don't get into a white van.
Family annihilators: Chris Watts, Chris Coleman, Chris Longo...it's become almost a rule, like don't get into a white van.
No, it was not.
I would not cite a name of Chris as a risk factor (a quick Google search reveals a variety of other names) however there are factors common to this kind of case.
- Prior history of domestic violence. (check.)
- Access to guns. (check.)
- Substance abuse. (check.)
- Possessive, jealous type. (check.)
- Unemployment. (check.)
- Disagreements over money (check), sex (check), and children (check.)
- Radical and significant changes in the person's social and economic environment (check - he was put out of the military for medical reasons.)
- Overenmeshment: "a condition in which perpetrators either view “their family members as possessions that they control or [they] don’t see any boundaries between their identity, their wife and their children. And so these are suicides of the entire family, where the anomic, overly enmeshed individual can’t bear to leave the pain behind and so takes his wife and children with him,” (My ex viewed the family as part of his identity, in this way, so...check.)
This is just from a very brief synopsis about the study, not even the actual full content of the study that was conducted.
It's usually to punish the children's mother I think. Really warped.
Especially when you consider that they hurt the children to punish the ex, and they kill themselves to avoid facing the consequences for their actions. It's cowardly.
- Prior history of domestic violence. (check.)
- Access to guns. (check.)
- Substance abuse. (check.)
- Possessive, jealous type. (check.)
- Unemployment. (check.)
- Disagreements over money (check), sex (check), and children (check.)
- Radical and significant changes in the person's social and economic environment (check - he was put out of the military for medical reasons.)
- Overenmeshment: "a condition in which perpetrators either view “their family members as possessions that they control or [they] don’t see any boundaries between their identity, their wife and their children. And so these are suicides of the entire family, where the anomic, overly enmeshed individual can’t bear to leave the pain behind and so takes his wife and children with him,” (My ex viewed the family as part of his identity, in this way, so...check.)
This is just from a very brief synopsis about the study, not even the actual full content of the study that was conducted.
My sister's ex-husband fits most of those categories. For a few years after they split up, we used to joke that he was going to show up at my parents' house on a holiday (because he knew that's where she'd be) with a gun. It was also not so much a joke, though.
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Hmmm...only guys. Well, it's on the internet...must be true.
Baltimore guy, women don't do this. They do sometimes kill their children, but I've never ever seen a mother kill her child to make the father suffer.
They sometimes beat a child to death in a rage, or get rid of children who are inconvenient and try to make it appear like a stranger did it, or they hear voices telling them to kill their children.
Can you find an example where a woman was seeking revenge on her husband, so she killed her child to make him suffer?
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