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New York - Steep decline from peak of 10,000 cases per day to almost 1,000 cases (and still declining)
New Jersey - Decline from peak of 4,000 cases per day to a plateau of 1,000 cases for about a week.
Illinois - Downward trend (for about a week) from peak of 2,500 cases per day to 1,400 cases
California - Consistent upward trend to a peak of 2,500 cases per day
Massachusetts - Downward trend from a peak of 2,400 to 1,000 cases per day
Pennsylvania - Very slow decline from under 2,000 cases per day to under 1,000 cases per day
Texas - At period high of 1,500 cases per day
Florida - Decline from 1,000 cases per day then slight upward trend for the last month to about 700 cases per day
Louisiana - Steep decline from 1,500 cases per day that about 400 cases per day for about a month
Ohio - Plateau around 500 to 600 cases per day for the last month after peak of 900 cases per day
Washington - Early decline from 500 cases per day then several weeks of 250 cases reported daily.
So basically, declines in NY, NJ, MA & LA are negating the increases in CA, TX & FL, while plateaus/'meh' declines in PA, OH & WA hold steady? In reality; nothing is actually going down in the country. It's not like each state has a viral barrier around it. I think we have the worst curve on the entire planet.
Thought I'd share this photo, taken in Paris (France) yesterday...
Perhaps it's a fake, or an aberration. But in the broader sense: if we can't enjoy life, why bother living? If life means lockdown, I'd rather die from the virus.
Perhaps it's a fake, or an aberration. But in the broader sense: if we can't enjoy life, why bother living? If life means lockdown, I'd rather die from the virus.
But if it means distancing and wearing masks in normal activities, I'd rather not die on a ventilator or something.
I gather ohio peasant isn't exactly a person who dances around screaming how good life is, and I'm not either.
This is such an extraordinary year, the pandemic exposes so many fragility in our society. The 2nd wave was theorized by doctors but it's inevitable at this point with widespread exposure recently due to people who think they are immune and those who are at mass protests. I thought over a week ago that protests would not happen due to lockdown in place but seems people are no longer thinking logically anymore.
We are having our first "real" church service this upcoming Sunday. I have no idea if or how we're going to have communion. Pretty sure there will be many changes. One thing we used to do every Sunday was sing "Blessed be the tie that binds..." standing and holding hands across the entire church and I bet THAT doesn't happen anytime soon!
It will be great to be together. That will be enough at first.
Testing has increased, yet percent of positives has remained below 10%.
Death and hospitalization numbers have decreased even as case numbers have gone up.
Certain areas such as Imperial valley have spiked, for sure, along with Bay area.
Our state finally fell below 10 percent!!! Don't recall what that indicates other than there is a minimally sufficient testing for one (???) goalpost.
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This from the New England Journal of Medicine.......
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic."
Covid-19 spreads somehow with minimal outward infection from hospitals. Staying 6 feet away from others even for 30 minutes is not possible in 'normal' life. Most U.S. guidelines have addressed that situation not people walking quickly by others when spread apart outdoors. In contrast, some European countries have said "mask everywhere period" or "better yet stay home." Even with increased testing (I think???), their numbers plummeted.
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Then that's fantastic. But it's not always so elegant and pristine. Sometimes our only choice is to pick the lesser of competing evils.!
Or the best combination maybe in moderation understanding none are the magic bullet and all arrive with their evils. At least that's how I look at it and it's probably what I'll do personally.
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Odd, isn't it, that the increase of case-count is in one large state that's been maximally aggressive about extended and intrusive lockdown, and another state, that's been essentially the opposite? How can we then draw any conclusions?
Not sure if California or Texas are illustrative of any particular point. Their per capita case rates remain well below the admittedly skewed U.S. average perhaps for different reasons. San Francisco and the Bay Area could have been a problem area but it took steps early. Los Angeles now is problematic. California as a whole is denser in population than Texas. But then due to fears of a higher death rate, many chose to social distance throughout the United States no doubt including Texas even when not required - making comparisons difficult.
If there are lessons to be drawn from the data it might be whether the NY metro area continues to more closely resemble Italy and Spain in days ahead than other U.S. states - and, if so, why.
Thought I'd share this photo, taken in Paris (France) yesterday...
Hmmm, I noticed that the name of the bar was "Black Sheep Society" and not "Brebis Galeuse" or "Mouton Noir". Isn't that strange? I suspect that the main clientele of this bar are not native French.
Hmmm, I noticed that the name of the bar was "Black Sheep Society" and not "Brebis Galeuse" or "Mouton Noir". Isn't that strange? I suspect that the main clientele of this bar are not native French.
I thought that too, but it looks like the black chalkboard has some writing in French. I checked Google Maps street-view, but GMSV isn't updated frequently, so it's inconclusive. FWIW, I got the pic from a trusted friend.
The 2nd wave was theorized by doctors but it's inevitable at this point with widespread exposure recently due to people who think they are immune and those who are at mass protests.
No matter how many times you & others repeat this, doesn't mean that another wave is inevitable.
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