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Old 03-05-2022, 09:42 PM
 
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Ugh, what a horrible feeling when your body starts to lose control and you die convulsing. It's good the company decided to put proper measuring scoops in the containers.

Also, this is NOT a Darwin nominee. The victim didn't intend to ingest so much caffeine; it was more of a careless error that an intentional act.

https://www.businessinsider.com/pers...-coffee-2022-3

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A personal trainer died from an overdose after accidentally ingesting a powder with caffeine levels equivalent to up to 200 cups of coffee, an inquest heard, per reports.
Personal trainer, 29, started 'frothing at the mouth' and died after accidentally making himself caffeine powder drink that was equivalent to 200 cups of coffee, inquest hears


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PGzY0OJyQY
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Old 03-06-2022, 12:05 AM
 
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That is absolutely horrific. With a supplement that powerful it's crazy that there was no measuring scoop. Poor guy, so young and he had kids, too.
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Old 03-06-2022, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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Ugh, what a horrible feeling when your body starts to lose control and you die convulsing. It's good the company decided to put proper measuring scoops in the containers.

Also, this is NOT a Darwin nominee. The victim didn't intend to ingest so much caffeine; it was more of a careless error that an intentional act.
It definitely is not. Those math errors are easy to make, and they creep in even when you work in a field involving doing those kinds of calculations. The culprit was the company who didn't provide a measuring utensil. Gosh, with death as a possible consequence if you measure it wrong you would have thought it would have been blindingly obvious to make sure that their product come with something to measure it with (converting milligrams to oz--yeah, it's not too difficult to get your zeros mixed up with that. And with his scale starting at 2g I'm sure he figured he did the calculations right). I'm wondering if this wasn't the first time this has happened.

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It's good the company decided to put proper measuring scoops in the containers
I see it as negligence that they did not at first.
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Old 03-06-2022, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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It definitely is not. Those math errors are easy to make, and they creep in even when you work in a field involving doing those kinds of calculations. The culprit was the company who didn't provide a measuring utensil. Gosh, with death as a possible consequence if you measure it wrong you would have thought it would have been blindingly obvious to make sure that their product come with something to measure it with (converting milligrams to oz--yeah, it's not too difficult to get your zeros mixed up with that. And with his scale starting at 2g I'm sure he figured he did the calculations right). I'm wondering if this wasn't the first time this has happened.



I see it as negligence that they did not at first.
I'd like to know what instructions/warnings were on the container. Because, as tragic as this story is, if the label was clear as day and gave adequate warning, I wouldn't put any blame on the company as folks aren't just supposed to put something into their mouths without an understanding of what it is.
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Old 03-06-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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The instructions on the label seem clear to me.
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Old 03-06-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...est-hears.html
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The recommended serving of the powder 60 to 300mg twice a day - but Mr Mansfield's digital scale had a starting weight of 2g.
The inquest heard Mr Mansfield was 'likely aiming for a mid range serving' but instead drank up to 5g of the powder.
He confused mg and grams. 60mg = .06g and 300mg = .3g. He took 5000mg, instead of .5g. So sad.
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Old 03-06-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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It was an accident. I don't blame the company. Energy drinks are well known for causing heart problems.

I would like to see the actual physical amount. They measure in weight... mg, but I would like to see that in a volumetric measure like 1/4 teaspoon or whatever. How easy is it to end up with an overdose? It's like taking pills. I'm always amazed that one tiny pill can make my body feel good or bad depending on the purpose of the medication.
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Old 03-06-2022, 12:38 PM
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I clicked on the link, and it stated he ingested ".2 ounces of caffeine powder".

That can't be right. By my calculations, that's less than 2 teaspoons.

No one would make a caffeine drink powder where if you ingest about 1.25 teaspoons of it you'll die. Anyone just "winging it" making that drink would use that much powder at least, especially if you don't have any way to weigh it in metric.

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Old 03-06-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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I think everyone has felt heart palpitations from too much caffeine. Image 200 cups of coffee. Sounds very painful.
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Old 03-06-2022, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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300 mg equals 1/8 of a teaspoon. That's a real small amount of powder to make the maximum dose, so somewhat understandable how such an accident could occur.

Sad news, but...a young guy in good shape shouldn't feel the need to be taking any caffeine before working out, IMO.
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