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How awful. This woman basically had a big fat temper tantrum like a spoiled child because she was told a park was closing soon. So she throws her food at her fiancee, screams at the park worker, and then proceeds to push that poor elderly woman to her death. That's exactly how her neighbors and former classmates described her as aggressive, mean, argumentative, bullying.
I'm not saying this has anything to do with being a 'rude New Yorker' either, I'm more disagreeing with the notion that there's some massive gap between folks from NYC and the NJ or Long Island-born children of the folks who left NYC for the suburbs. It's all kind of a shared culture in the same Metro which stands out to people from elsewhere. If a guy moves from Brooklyn to Long Island he doesn't become a different guy, and his kids will get a healthy dose of "New York" in their upbringing and since most of their classmates in school will be in a similar boat their upbringing probably isn't that different from what it would have been in the city.
And again - unrelated to whether this has anything to do with this incident - I think "rude New Yorker" is just short hand for the phenomenon observed by people from other parts of the country that folks in the NY/NJ area are less patient, less agreeable and more inclined to be confrontational as a way of obtaining desired results than people elsewhere. Having done business with people from all over the place, I'd say there's a certain truth to that being a tendency.
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
Probably good. Her family likely does have city connections.
The point was that it's not necessary to make assumptions based on idiotic stereotypes.
I grew up closer to NYC than she did, except I was in New Jersey, about 30 miles NW of the city (but not Italian and with no NYC roots whatsoever--my ancestors came straight to NJ from England and the Netherlands), and then I worked in NYC for about 40 years.
Most New Yorkers are not rude, although the fast pace and direct way of speaking might make some timid outsiders from slower areas think so, and the stereotype is used in movies and on TV. To imply that it's just everyday NY behavior to shove someone to the ground is moronic and should have no place in a conversation about a heinous crime like this.
I am not timid but I experienced the "rudeness" particularly when in the subway traveling on the trains. I practically got mowed over when going through the turnstile and when eight weeks pregnant the crush of the crowd against me standing on the train lifted me from the floor. No one seemed concerned in the least. Very frightening. When I was on the train in Philadelphia, people offered me a seat. I'd say it's a deserved stereotype. Having said that, I love NYC!
I am not timid but I experienced the "rudeness" particularly when in the subway traveling on the trains. I practically got mowed over when going through the turnstile and when eight weeks pregnant the crush of the crowd against me standing on the train lifted me from the floor. No one seemed concerned in the least. Very frightening. When I was on the train in Philadelphia, people offered me a seat. I'd say it's a deserved stereotype. Having said that, I love NYC!
Seriously? Lets be factual here. NOBODY is showing at 8 weeks. Your fetus was less than 1 inch long and weighs less than 1/8 of an ounce.
And really, you are comparing the EI to The MTA?
Seriously? Lets be factual here. NOBODY is showing at 8 weeks. Your fetus was less than 1 inch long and weighs less than 1/8 of an ounce.
And really, you are comparing the EI to The MTA?
My mistake, I was eight months pregnant. I am comparing attitudes!
How awful. This woman basically had a big fat temper tantrum like a spoiled child because she was told a park was closing soon. So she throws her food at her fiancee, screams at the park worker, and then proceeds to push that poor elderly woman to her death. That's exactly how her neighbors and former classmates described her as aggressive, mean, argumentative, bullying.
I am not timid but I experienced the "rudeness" particularly when in the subway traveling on the trains. I practically got mowed over when going through the turnstile and when eight weeks pregnant the crush of the crowd against me standing on the train lifted me from the floor. No one seemed concerned in the least. Very frightening. When I was on the train in Philadelphia, people offered me a seat. I'd say it's a deserved stereotype. Having said that, I love NYC!
Sorry that happened to you, although I have seen people offer a pregnant woman a seat on the train in NYC. Often during rush hour, which it sounds as if it had to be when you were on the train if there were that many other riders, people zone into their own little worlds. No one probably even noticed you. I think it's a protective device to keep people from focusing on the fact that they are in an underground tunnel and squashed into a big can on wheels with a lot of other people.
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