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Old 02-01-2023, 10:23 AM
 
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I think he's saying that if the husband had been the one to do this he would be a monster.
Well, post-partum depression isn't possible in men. If she didn't have PPD and was mentally stable when she killed them, she'd be a monster, too.
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Old 02-01-2023, 03:36 PM
 
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I don't know, but she has domain knowledge from her profession. That should have led her to notice signs and symptoms. Obviously she knew enough to get into treatment to begin with.
I know a psychologist who tried to commit suicide while he was being treated by a psychiatrist for his depression.
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:54 PM
 
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This case is different from Yates because Rusty Yates was a 100% prick who refused to help his wife in any way and insisted that she do 100% of childcare and housework with zero help because in his mind, wives were responsible for all of that without any help.

In the Clancy case, she fell thru the cracks despite getting treatment for her depression. Apparently the dad was working from home too. Now it's possible that he neglected to look after her, even though he was working from home.
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Old 02-03-2023, 06:56 AM
 
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This case is different from Yates because Rusty Yates was a 100% prick who refused to help his wife in any way and insisted that she do 100% of childcare and housework with zero help because in his mind, wives were responsible for all of that without any help.

In the Clancy case, she fell thru the cracks despite getting treatment for her depression. Apparently the dad was working from home too. Now it's possible that he neglected to look after her, even though he was working from home.
This is true. It would, IMO, indicate that women suffering extreme PPP should be treated in a mental health facility, not sent home. It is almost impossible for one person to monitor the situation 24/7 at home, especially trying to work as well.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:16 AM
 
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This is true. It would, IMO, indicate that women suffering extreme PPP should be treated in a mental health facility, not sent home. It is almost impossible for one person to monitor the situation 24/7 at home, especially trying to work as well.
A lot of the time (as someone who works in healthcare) it is the insurance company that dictates treatment, not the doctor. Most health insurance plans probably deny inpatient treatment unless the person is hanging from the rafters with an ax.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:18 AM
 
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This is true. It would, IMO, indicate that women suffering extreme PPP should be treated in a mental health facility, not sent home. It is almost impossible for one person to monitor the situation 24/7 at home, especially trying to work as well.
Again, that is often the call of an insurance company, not a medical provider. They have final say on treatment, unless, of course, one can afford to pay out of pocket.

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Old 02-03-2023, 11:36 AM
 
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A lot of the time (as someone who works in healthcare) it is the insurance company that dictates treatment, not the doctor. Most health insurance plans probably deny inpatient treatment unless the person is hanging from the rafters with an ax.
Yes I'm sure it is. You don't even have to work in healthcare to see it. Same applies to physical ailments many times. Insurance wont pay out until an issue is really, really bad. They will just put band aids on it against doctor's recommendations to actually eliminate the problem.
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Old 02-03-2023, 12:32 PM
 
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I don't think we know if she asked for inpatient treatment. I used to work in inpatient admissions at her affiliated psychiatric hospital and don't think insurance would have turned down a request, especially if her husband felt he should be working from home to supervise her.
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Old 02-03-2023, 01:07 PM
 
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I don't think we know if she asked for inpatient treatment. I used to work in inpatient admissions at her affiliated psychiatric hospital and don't think insurance would have turned down a request, especially if her husband felt he should be working from home to supervise her.
Would you not think her doctor, whom I assume put her on all those psychotic meds, would have her admitted her knowing the extent of her PPP, even without her consent, or can they do that.
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Old 02-03-2023, 01:24 PM
 
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HOW in the world was she prescribed ALL of those medications all at once? And WHY was a nurse, who knows these things, taking all those all at once? HOW can one function on all of those? WHY was the insurance company and the pharmacy allowing all of those scrips to be filled?? My housemate tried to fill 15 Hydrocodone pills for gout and Walmart gave him so much grief that they only allowed 5 pills at one time! For one scrip only. Is this a regional thing? Is this a Massachusetts thing? So many questions.... I just don't get it.

I'm definitely not slamming this mom, I just wonder why she was taking all these meds. I don't know the biochemistry of all these pharmaceuticals, but it doesn't seem right. It seems very wrong. Who was managing this? Who was monitoring this? And why in the world is she charged with murder? That's so wrong. I don't believe she'll be convicted, and if she is, she shouldn't be.
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