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Well, of course the mother would say that. What WOULD she say; "I was playing on my phone?"
or even worse, sorry i'd been drinking all day?
I dont get the impression that's what was happening...but plenty of people get drunk or high when kids are in their care and then wonder why accidents happen
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These parents are irritating. It doesn’t seem as if they’ve accepted any responsibility at all.
These weren't toddlers, they should have been okay playing in the sand (not water) just a few feet away. It shouldn't have been, and wouldn't have been a deadly problem, other than the fact that somebody decided to dig a ginormous hole and leave it.
Again, if you came across such a huge manmade hole in the middle of a park instead of on the beach, would it be a problem then?
Again, if you came across such a huge manmade hole in the middle of a park instead of on the beach, would it be a problem then?
The unstable nature of the sand was a large part of the problem. Doesn't matter where that sand happens to be located. Sure, the walls of some massive hole dug in soil of any type could collapse on the digger (which is why excavation and trenching safety precautions for workers exist) but with sand its more likely.
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The unstable nature of the sand was a large part of the problem. Doesn't matter where that sand happened to be located. Sure, the walls of some massive hole dug in soil of any type could collapse on the digger (which is why excavation and trenching safety precautions for workers exist) but with sand its more likely.
Two construction workers were killed in a trench collapse at JFK last year. There was a lawsuit--apparently their employer didn't follow safety rules for supporting the trench. It's rare, but it happens. Sand, though, is more likely to collapse.
These weren't toddlers, they should have been okay playing in the sand (not water) just a few feet away. It shouldn't have been, and wouldn't have been a deadly problem, other than the fact that somebody decided to dig a ginormous hole and leave it.
Again, if you came across such a huge manmade hole in the middle of a park instead of on the beach, would it be a problem then?
I truly don't understand the point you're making in response to what I posted. But I'll answer your question, yes it would be a problem in the middle of a park. My understanding is that these kids (with the help of an adult possibly) were actively digging vs just came across. I will go back and re-read the article when I get a moment.
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The unstable nature of the sand was a large part of the problem. Doesn't matter where that sand happens to be located. Sure, the walls of some massive hole dug in soil of any type could collapse on the digger (which is why excavation and trenching safety precautions for workers exist) but with sand its more likely.
Yes, I know, but there seem to be some folks suggesting that a giant hole on the beach is somehow not a problem, like the fact that it's 'just' sand is somehow better.
These parents are irritating. It doesn’t seem as if they’ve accepted any responsibility at all.
I doubt it ever occurred to them it would be dangerous to let the kids dig. They're from Indiana, not a beach area where people might know that. I wouldn't have known it was dangerous.
I doubt it ever occurred to them it would be dangerous to let the kids dig. They're from Indiana, not a beach area where people might know that. I wouldn't have known it was dangerous.
I hate it for them. But I can see where they might be ignorant of the dangers.
For instance I might go to Indiana and go swimming in a river not realizing Indian is one of the most polluted states in the nation.
For instance I might go to Indiana and go swimming in a river not realizing Indiana is one of the most polluted states in the nation.
I might go to Florida and walk too close to a pond or ditch not realizing there might be alligators in it.
You don't know what you don't know, and if you are out of your element, it's more likely there will be things you don't know. Which is why people who sneer that posting signs of dangers, particularly in areas that might attract tourists, is infantilizing people are so off base.
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