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Old 12-28-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas TX sucks
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You think Dallas is hot? Go to San Antonio or Houston in August. THATs hot!

I been there. Its not Phoenix AZ July hot. A few degrees does not mean a whole lot to me. My main point is one cannot enjoy yourself out doors and that is a problem for me.

Single cities can be just as good for families but, the vice versa does not hold true.

 
Old 12-28-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Dallas has lots of pro's that I loved about living there.

It has an exceptionally healthy economy, it has a very diverse populace, the were quite a few great restaurants, the nightlife is decent, and its quite simply the easiest place to live that Ive ever lived.

Its not a tourist city. Its a city where you can have some fun if you have a reason to go there, but its not made for tourists.

Its a city on the Great Plains. Its not set in the Mountains or by a beach. We used to drive the 3.5 hours to the foothills of the Ozarks when we wanted to spend time some place prettier.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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The problem is you keep framing the analysis in the perspective of LA, but the reality is that LA is so drastically different that it is an apples to oranges comparison.

You have to look at Dallas for what it has to offer as a city in North Texas and in the Great Plains area. I grew up in a small town a few hours away from Dallas; a place that you would probably hate. But, in my mind Dallas was always the cool city to visit because it has so much stuff. Tons of restaurants, nicer cars, nicer homes, friendly people, and a big airport that you can take to literally anywhere in the world.

Even today, after I spent almost a decade working as a traveling businessman, I appreciate Dallas for NOT being a city like LA, NYC, or Chicago. To me, Dallas gives you big city access with the freedom of space.
The thing is, I am looking at Dallas for what it has to offer as one of the largest cities in the country. I lived in L.A. and I absolutely love the city, but I am not there now because it's too expensive. Dallas would be affordable, but it's lacking the things I liked about L.A. I wish it was at least like Chicago.. maybe flat, bad weather and no beach or mountains, but they have a huge and amazing downtown and it's just a better city..
 
Old 12-28-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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To the OP, based on your responses and cities you like it sounds like natural surroundings is really important to you in a city. DFW is just not going to offer it on the same level as SF, LA, Boston, or Austin. I would just cross out DFW as a city to visit because your not going to find a beach to take a stroll here or mountains to climb and explore.

Other than natural beauty however, DFW has too many, attractions, cities, and areas to visit. I just can't comprehend how you disliked both downtown Ft Worth and downtown Dallas. Usually visitors like one of the two because they are so different. If you like Austin, Fort Worth certainly should at least come close. With that said Dallas also has various similar neighborhoods outside of downtown. Some of them on the higher end and some of them laid back. Many of these neighborhoods however are not directly accessible by DART (except maybe Deep Ellum) or next to freeways.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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The thing is, I am looking at Dallas for what it has to offer as one of the largest cities in the country. I lived in L.A. and I absolutely love the city, but I am not there now because it's too expensive. Dallas would be affordable, but it's lacking the things I liked about L.A. I wish it was at least like Chicago.. maybe flat, bad weather and no beach or mountains, but they have a huge and amazing downtown and it's just a better city..
Life is about compromises. It sounds like Dallas would be the "wrong compromise" for you. Your tone from the first post has made it obvious that Dallas is not satisfying for you, so why continue to try and rationalize moving there?

If you value scenic areas, flashy tourist spots, etc.. then why not Miami or Las Vegas? Both places should have a more affordable cost of living than LA and offer you the sort of social perks that you seem to be seeking.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Shady Drifter
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I lived in L.A. and I absolutely love the city, but I am not there now because it's too expensive.
That's usually the trade-off. People on here love to bash the cost of living in coastal cities, but gorgeous scenery costs money. One reason D/FW is relatively inexpensive is because it doesn't have oceans or mountains or similar features.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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Some dont consider Dallas flatness a flaw. Boring is in the eye of the beholder. What you think is important is not to everone or at least to me. So the defensiveness is challenging your value system not the facts of flatness etc.
Visited California a couple of years ago, in July. Those mountains around LA and the Bay Area are just ugly. Lots of rocks and scrub brush. I was so happy to see Dallas. Those mountains also made getting somewhere difficult. No driving in a straight line between cities. Just MY opinion.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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The problem is you keep framing the analysis in the perspective of LA, but the reality is that LA is so drastically different that it is an apples to oranges comparison.

You have to look at Dallas for what it has to offer as a city in North Texas and in the Great Plains area. I grew up in a small town a few hours away from Dallas; a place that you would probably hate. But, in my mind Dallas was always the cool city to visit because it has so much stuff. Tons of restaurants, nicer cars, nicer homes, friendly people, and a big airport that you can take to literally anywhere in the world.

Even today, after I spent almost a decade working as a traveling businessman, I appreciate Dallas for NOT being a city like LA, NYC, or Chicago. To me, Dallas gives you big city access with the freedom of space.
Excellent post. Dallas is not NYC or SF, which are great cities to visit. I wouldn't live in either one even if they were affordable. Personally, Dallas has what I prefer in a city: easy to get around in, diversity, Hispanic culture, decent public transportation, good (although somewhat generic) suburbs, short winters, job opportunities and good pro sports options. Not everyone likes super-dense, overcrowded urban cores. That's why Dallas and San Antonio are my favorite Texas cities.

I grew up around the mountains in CA, but when I moved to Texas, I learned to appreciate the beauty in rolling prairies and lakes as well
 
Old 12-28-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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Why are yall trying to convince this person? Every place is not for everyone and that's ok. If you don't like Dallas already, nothing is going to change your mind. Notice all the threads of people who can't wait to leave. This is all you will get in a case like this.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Dallas/Fort Worth is no Colorado when it comes to outdoor recreation but we have our share of decent spots, here are just some examples:

White Rock Lake: White Rock Lake | Dallas Parks, TX - Official Website For the Love of the Lake
http://www.whiterocklakefoundation.o...k-1024x339.jpg

Cedar Hill State Park / Joe Pool Lake: Cedar Hill State Park
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_Hill_State_Park 19 miles from downtown Dallas.
http://www.cedarhilledc.com/media/StatePark3.JPG

Joe Pool Lake 20 miles from downtown Dallas.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...Y9HjNX1Se2mrQ1

Lake Ray Hubbard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ray_Hubbard 17 miles from downtown Dallas.
http://lakerayhubbardlife.com/image_...3558694869.jpg
http://www.northtexasactivelife.com/...kayak-mary.jpg

The Great Trinity Forest urban park is located within the Texas Blackland Prairies ecoregion. Habitats within it include bottomland hardwood forests, riparian zones, wetlands, open water ponds, grasslands, and the Trinity River itself. The Great Trinity Forest which at 6,000 acres (24 km2) is the largest urban bottomland forest in the world), it has been billed as the largest urban park in the United States.

http://www.trinityforestgc.com/wp-co...nityslide2.jpg
http://www.greensourcedfw.org/sites/...ity-forest.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kMPRoaVMQP...rest+trail.jpg
http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bpho...cB5jFu0g/o.jpg

Santa Fe Trail (extends from White Rock Lake to Deep Ellum (downtown Dallas):
http://friendsofsantafetrail.org/res...,0s457x341.JPG
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...cgHx_Xi0bidXHC

Audobon Centers (Parks) - Trinity River Audubon Center at Dallas & Dogwood Canyon Audubon Center at Cedar Hill: Dallas Audobon - 10 miles from Downtown / Cedar Hill Audobon - 19 miles from downtown Dallas.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...Ve01mHZ7mavUZE
http://www.safnet.com/images/dcacJoePoolLarge.png

Mesquite Heritage Trail: 13 miles from downtown Dallas.
http://bestevents.us/wp-content/uplo...35645860_o.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...qR1MohqySKGNZ6

Katy Trail: Downtown-Uptown Dallas.
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...llas-texas.jpg

Dallas Arboretum and Botanical Gardens:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...FzHBItxy-rRvL5
http://media.bizj.us/view/img/258523...0-506-0-47.jpg
http://tuisnider.com/wp-content/uplo...tum-picnic.jpg

I'm sure others will add more to this list...

Last edited by RonnieinDallas; 12-28-2015 at 10:10 PM.. Reason: Copyrighted material: unless you took the picture yourself don't post it
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