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Old 02-18-2021, 08:43 AM
 
Location: DFW
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About 10 to 12 years ago, a coal fired electric plant on North Lake Dallas just south of Coppell was demolished. To my eyes it looked to be of decent size. I'm sure it could have helped prevent some (not all) of the blackouts here in the DFW area.
That was the one at Northlake and yes it was a victim of the Obama Years. Right now you would have seen a huge steam cloud above it with it cranking out power. I believe it also ran off natural gas.

The city of Dallas and Developers have built that Cypress Waters Development on the land.
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Old 02-18-2021, 08:59 AM
 
Location: DFW, Texas
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We are no longer getting power outages since early morning, possibly late last night. Is anyone still getting power outage?
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Gaagige Minawaanigozigiwining
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Hey wait a minute - Tex has nuclear power stations - are they all closed for cleaning?https://atomicinsights.com/south-tex...n-feb-15-2021/
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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The debate on renewable vs fossil is kinda missing the point. Both are effed if you don't spend the extra cash to prepare for unusual weather circumstances. This type of weather event occurred in the 1980s - I guarantee you everyone in the leadership of those organizations was alive at the time - and there's no excuse to not have a good plan in hand for another situation like that.



I'd forgive L.A. for not handling 0 degrees properly because that would literally be over 20 degrees below their all-time low, but this would be more like L.A. not having a contingency plan in place for a major earthquake i.e. a rare but entirely predictable event.
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:23 AM
 
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That was the one at Northlake and yes it was a victim of the Obama Years. Right now you would have seen a huge steam cloud above it with it cranking out power. I believe it also ran off natural gas.

The city of Dallas and Developers have built that Cypress Waters Development on the land.
Converted from coal to gas at one point? Yeah, I can see that. From the outside it would be hard to tell. But there were heavy train tracks going into the site, and I did see a black pile of something back then. That is why my guess of coal.

The "lake" is now about half the size it was back then.
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Gaagige Minawaanigozigiwining
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I'm spitballing here, but did the state ever require gensets for high rise buildings, other than hospitals?

When we visited Florida in 2006 - which was struck repeatedly by hurricanes, that state's legislature required gensets.
https://www.tawinc.com/power-systems...s-regulations/
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Old 02-18-2021, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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Could this wipe out vineyards?


No, there are plenty of vineyards in Canada. The kind of weather you are experiencing lasts three to four months in my area around Montreal, and there are vineyards a couple of miles from where I live.
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Old 02-18-2021, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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You might want to find it and read before knocking it. The wind turbines iced up first and it went downhill from there.

Those wind turbines weren't equipped with heater systems to operate under low temps, unfortunately.
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Old 02-18-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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Those wind turbines weren't equipped with heater systems to operate under low temps, unfortunately.
Heaters or not, their blades all end up in places like this after not very long:

"Hundreds of non-recyclable wind turbine blades to be buried in landfill"
https://ecology.news/2019-09-27-non-...-landfill.html

Because they collide with so many particles at high speed.

Seems like a lot of maintenance for devices with so little efficiencies, as well as towering, high-profile, conspicuous landscape-degradation, shipped into Corpus Christi from some Uighur imprisoning country with a social credit score for its citizens that it wants to take worldwide.

All in the name of replacing abiogenic methane packed with energy out of the ground.

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Old 02-18-2021, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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Heaters or not, their blades all end up in places like this after not very long:

"Hundreds of non-recyclable wind turbine blades to be buried in landfill"
https://ecology.news/2019-09-27-non-...-landfill.html

Because they collide with so many particles at high speed.

Seems like a lot of maintenance for devices with so little efficiencies, as well as towering, high-profile, conspicuous landscape-degradation, shipped into Corpus Christi from some Uighur imprisoning country with a social credit score for its citizens that it wants to take worldwide...

All in the name of replacing abiogenic methane packed with energy out of the ground.


Yes, I am not too crazy about those giant, humming, presences on the ground.

However, as far as efficiency goes, it's not as if the oil and gas sector doesn't have issues. You could bundle all the Tar sands projects, the Gulf platforms downed in Katrina, the Ocean Ranger and Exxon Valdez disasters, all of the emergency capped wells, the flaring, the fracking, and that comes up to a pretty hefty bill, conservatively speaking.
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