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Old 02-19-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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Yes, that was as ridiculous as everything else. Having 12 hour power spread through the day would have avoided most of the damage.
What they wanted and what their plants/equipment were capable of were two different outcomes
They did not understand how weak their plants were, how weak the supply lines so the producers overestimated their capacity to perform...

People who analyzed the 9/11 attack put it down to failure of imagination to believe what terrorists were capable of

Here it was also failure of imagination...these people believed their press about the superiority of Texas’s independent power grid...
Hubris caused this
And greed...
And political narrative...

And while it might have been 2011 since the last big freeze, I would imagine climate change will speed up our next Arctic blast because the jet stream has become more unstable...
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Old 02-19-2021, 07:20 AM
 
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Everything I read says those were gas powered plants. Just very old inefficient gas plants. This article includes the Northlake plant. From 2009...

https://www.reuters.com/article/util...40030320090313
Thanks
I was going on what I thought was accurate memory

Love the last comment from Ercot about not hurting the Dallas grid
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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My gosh, how people love to make every single thing political. This winter storm was absolutely unprecedented - even the cold spells of 2011 and other years pale in comparison to this event. I just wish that not every single event was turned into a political debate. There's so much more to real life than politics.

Real life is hard enough without armchair politicians in other states pontificating on the political events rather than focusing on an unprecedented weather event.

Texas has truly never experienced anything like this before.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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And while it might have been 2011 since the last big freeze, I would imagine climate change will speed up our next Arctic blast because the jet stream has become more unstable...
2011 had NOTHING on this particular weather event just to clarify. Our low temp was 17 - I remember that clearly. This time it was -6 degrees. -6. It hasn't been above freezing temperature wise for five days. The HIGHS have been in the 20s. We got more snow and ice in three days than we normally get in ten years.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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Texas has truly never experienced anything like this before.

...Except when we did, in 1989/1990.



As I stated earlier in this thread, we had issues back then with schools remaining closed extra days because of a lack of natural gas supply.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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My gosh, how people love to make every single thing political. This winter storm was absolutely unprecedented - even the cold spells of 2011 and other years pale in comparison to this event. I just wish that not every single event was turned into a political debate. There's so much more to real life than politics.

Real life is hard enough without armchair politicians in other states pontificating on the political events rather than focusing on an unprecedented weather event.

Texas has truly never experienced anything like this before.
The winter storm of 2011 was a hint to prepare. Only, the parts of TX not serviced by the state grid took notice and did prepare.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:45 AM
 
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...Except when we did, in 1989/1990.



As I stated earlier in this thread, we had issues back then with schools remaining closed extra days because of a lack of natural gas supply.
Here in NE Texas, the temps this past week were the lowest ever on record.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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The winter storm of 2011 was a hint to prepare. Only, the parts of TX not serviced by the state grid took notice and did prepare.
I agree that it could and did happen of course. I'm just tired of everything being made into a political argument. This winter weather is absolutely the worst this area has EVER experienced. And I'm including 2011 in that.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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Here in NE Texas, the temps this past week were the lowest ever on record.

On some days, by a couple degrees. And other days, they were warmer than in 1989/1990. And I'm talking about NE TX.
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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On some days, by a couple degrees. And other days, they were warmer than in 1989/1990. And I'm talking about NE TX.
I think we're splitting hairs here. I'm not going to look up every single temp from every single day. What I know is that the temps here in the Tyler area were the lowest ever recorded. Dallas recorded the coldest three days ever on record. Not just for the dates in question. Ever.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/weather...c-8141907b6cb8
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