National Merit Semifinalist 2023 (Houston, Austin, Plano: school districts, college, high income)

[biafra4life]

Here is the link for those interested: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gyh...hzs7fFz09/view

One highlight. it's official now, Frisco has officially surpassed Plano as the academic powerhouse ISD of North Texas with 119 NMSF to Plano's 104.




Byron Nelson 6
Rockwall 4
Wylie 1
Wylie East 1
Lewisville 1
Prosper 2
McKinney Boyd 2
McKinney 1
McKinney North 1
Lucas Lovejoy 7
Euless Trinity 2
Frisco Centennial 20
Frisco High 8
Frisco Heritage 7
Frisco Independence 11
Frisco Lebanon Trails 16
Frisco Liberty 24
Frisco Lone Star 9
Frisco Memorial 3
Frisco Reedy 12
Frisco Rock Hill 3
Frisco Wakeland 9
Garland High 3
Grapevine 6
Duncanville 1
Pascal 3
Timber Creek 2
Hebron 14
Newman Smith 6
Colleyville 5
Allen 31
Arlington Martin 6
Denton 1
Denton Guyer 3
Keller 9
Fossil Ridge 1
Keller Central 1

[serger]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Just a data point in the weeds a little. The University of California System in particular does not use test scores for admission and scholarship purposes but submitted test scores may be used for class placement and other things. One bit of ambiguity......one source claims that high test scores may be used to offset low grades and another indicates that's not the case.

What UC has done, as Wittgenstein's Ghost noted, is ignore its own earlier conclusions and outside consulting input indicating that test scores are very useful and for "equity" reasons alone ditched test scores as admission criteria.

Here's a well reasoned argument, from a left leaning source BTW, claiming getting rid of test scores will hurt CA Black, American Indian and Hispanic UC hopefuls.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ng-sat/619522/


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I predict significant failure and that UC will generate its own admissions test before 2030. Along those lines admitted students at Berkeley for sure and I think Davis, Santa Cruz and UCSD must take a math placement exam and several UC schools have writing placement exams as well. It won't be too long before similar are required for admission.......there are going to be a lot of misses.

This is kind of tangential but I noticed that various Physics graduate programs do not review GRE general anymore, and list the subject test as optional. Of course, the quantitative section should be a joke to anyone who is going into hard sciences, but I think making the subject test optional puts many international students from less developed countries at a disadvantage.
Not that it is a great test, but it's something.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by serger

This is kind of tangential but I noticed that various Physics graduate programs do not review GRE general anymore, and list the subject test as optional. Of course, the quantitative section should be a joke to anyone who is going into hard sciences, but I think making the subject test optional puts many international students from less developed countries at a disadvantage.
Not that it is a great test, but it's something.

That's good info. As you know I'm something of a standardized test fan, however, the GRE for STEM types is a bad fit.

[rabbit33]

Originally Posted by arkroyal2223

Greenhill 6
Highland Park 16
Hockaday 26
Jesuit 6
Parish 1
TAG 10
St Marks 24
Ursuline 5
Cisterician 5
Plano West 63
Plano East 33
Plano 8
Coppell 31
Southlake 41
Flower Mount 29

It'd be amusing to do the percentages of class size for these numbers.

Then try to make the argument that SM and Hockaday don't offer anything but prestige.

[Radraiderz2004]

Originally Posted by biafra4life

Here is the link for those interested: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gyh...hzs7fFz09/view

One highlight. it's official now, Frisco has officially surpassed Plano as the academic powerhouse ISD of North Texas with 119 NMSF to Plano's 104.




Byron Nelson 6
Rockwall 4
Wylie 1
Wylie East 1
Lewisville 1
Prosper 2
McKinney Boyd 2
McKinney 1
McKinney North 1
Lucas Lovejoy 7
Euless Trinity 2
Frisco Centennial 20
Frisco High 8
Frisco Heritage 7
Frisco Independence 11
Frisco Lebanon Trails 16
Frisco Liberty 24
Frisco Lone Star 9
Frisco Memorial 3
Frisco Reedy 12
Frisco Rock Hill 3
Frisco Wakeland 9
Garland High 3
Grapevine 6
Duncanville 1
Pascal 3
Timber Creek 2
Hebron 14
Newman Smith 6
Colleyville 5
Allen 31
Arlington Martin 6
Denton 1
Denton Guyer 3
Keller 9
Fossil Ridge 1
Keller Central 1

Just a small correction. Frisco would have 116. While Rock Hill high is physically in the Frisco/McKinney border area it is within the jurisdiction of Prosper ISD. This would bump Prosper ISD to 5.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by rabbit33

It'd be amusing to do the percentages of class size for these numbers.

Then try to make the argument that SM and Hockaday don't offer anything but prestige.

Be careful assuming output differences are due to the school and not a difference in inputs.

[dwf121300]

I do not consider Frisco ISD an academic power house at all when you consider the Frisco ISD all high schools student population is 22,711 (based on data available on internet) and NMS is 119.

Southlake Carroll ISD Student population (both high schools) is 2795 and NMS is 41. Considering this I would say Southlake Carroll ISD is a power house in academics and also in sports (entire state). In 2022 Southlake Carroll ISD No. 1 UIL Lone Star Cup. https://www.uiltexas.org/press-relea...ners-announced.

Frisco is no match to Southlake Carroll ISD

Originally Posted by biafra4life

Here is the link for those interested: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gyh...hzs7fFz09/view

One highlight. it's official now, Frisco has officially surpassed Plano as the academic powerhouse ISD of North Texas with 119 NMSF to Plano's 104.




Byron Nelson 6
Rockwall 4
Wylie 1
Wylie East 1
Lewisville 1
Prosper 2
McKinney Boyd 2
McKinney 1
McKinney North 1
Lucas Lovejoy 7
Euless Trinity 2
Frisco Centennial 20
Frisco High 8
Frisco Heritage 7
Frisco Independence 11
Frisco Lebanon Trails 16
Frisco Liberty 24
Frisco Lone Star 9
Frisco Memorial 3
Frisco Reedy 12
Frisco Rock Hill 3
Frisco Wakeland 9
Garland High 3
Grapevine 6
Duncanville 1
Pascal 3
Timber Creek 2
Hebron 14
Newman Smith 6
Colleyville 5
Allen 31
Arlington Martin 6
Denton 1
Denton Guyer 3
Keller 9
Fossil Ridge 1
Keller Central 1

[20Hope20]

With their wealthy, educated, family oriented and ambitious demographics and insane numbers of enrollment at prep centers, these schools should score higher numbers of NMSF. What's missing?

[NP78]

Originally Posted by 20Hope20

With their wealthy, educated, family oriented and ambitious demographics and insane numbers of enrollment at prep centers, these schools should score higher numbers of NMSF. What's missing?

Which schools? By definition isn't this a measure of the top 1% of test takers? There can only be so many overall.

[20Hope20]

St Marks has 24% of the class meet the cut off. What's the percentage meeting cut off at Allen High or Frisco High or Plano West?