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Old 04-13-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Do not take this post negatively. I have lived in several areas, including SE Michigan. The region must work together and grow as one. The region will not grow unless you have a vibrant city center, period (Royal Oak will not cut it). When GM needed to add IT jobs, the jobs were placed in Austin, TX and other hip, young and exciting areas. Those $75k ++ plus jobs should be n SE Michigan. Those young, hip and cool people could have help tranformed the city / region. When people visit your city ( I did this week ), stop bashing it. I also visited Nashville, TN this week and all were excited about the city (most did not live in the city but viewed it as the hub). SE Michigan must understand that the region is FAR behind other areas. Where do you think I would want to take my talents? Nashville or Detroit? Again, this is not a bashing thread. It seems like Dan Gilbert has the vision and I wish him luck.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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It has been said for years and I doubt anyone who really knows the area and has put some intelligent thought into its future would disagree. It is my hometown and I will always love it. I wish the jobs were there to allow my family and I to return. Oakland and Macomb Counties can still be a great place for families but without that urban hub, it is a much poorer place culturally and otherwise. Even affluent middle aged people who live out in the burbs would benefit from increasing Detroit's appeal to younger professionals.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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That's the truth. I have now lived in Denver for five years and Detroit could learn a lot from this city about making a cool, trendy place. Hopefully, we will see some positive changes in Detroit as the years go by. I know it has already seen some significant change downtown in just the past five years I've been away. Things are changing, just slowly. I know a lot of young professionals moving into the city.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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The region and the state as a whole fails to realize this. The people of MI have the attitude of an elementary school kid "ewww Detroit has the cooties". It's embarrassing. And one has to wonder why Detroit is still in decline. The only people who want to be around negativity is other negative people. Negativity = no progress. Dan Gilbert obviously graduated from an elementary school mindset. He's actually doing things to create change instead of sitting at home on a computer on CD 24/7 complaining about Detroit.
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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Do not take this post negatively. I have lived in several areas, including SE Michigan. The region must work together and grow as one. The region will not grow unless you have a vibrant city center, period (Royal Oak will not cut it). When GM needed to add IT jobs, the jobs were placed in Austin, TX and other hip, young and exciting areas. Those $75k ++ plus jobs should be n SE Michigan. Those young, hip and cool people could have help tranformed the city / region. When people visit your city ( I did this week ), stop bashing it. I also visited Nashville, TN this week and all were excited about the city (most did not live in the city but viewed it as the hub). SE Michigan must understand that the region is FAR behind other areas. Where do you think I would want to take my talents? Nashville or Detroit? Again, this is not a bashing thread. It seems like Dan Gilbert has the vision and I wish him luck.
Agreed.

For the record, I bash the entire region in my posts, not just Detroit proper.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Do not take this post negatively. I have lived in several areas, including SE Michigan. The region must work together and grow as one. The region will not grow unless you have a vibrant city center, period (Royal Oak will not cut it). When GM needed to add IT jobs, the jobs were placed in Austin, TX and other hip, young and exciting areas. Those $75k ++ plus jobs should be n SE Michigan. Those young, hip and cool people could have help tranformed the city / region. When people visit your city ( I did this week ), stop bashing it. I also visited Nashville, TN this week and all were excited about the city (most did not live in the city but viewed it as the hub). SE Michigan must understand that the region is FAR behind other areas. Where do you think I would want to take my talents? Nashville or Detroit? Again, this is not a bashing thread. It seems like Dan Gilbert has the vision and I wish him luck.
Correct.

The only thing I would add is that a lot of people HAVE figured it out, but it takes a long time to turn around a big ship, especially AFTER it hits the iceberg...
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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When GM needed to add IT jobs, the jobs were placed in Austin, TX and other hip, young and exciting areas. Those $75k ++ plus jobs should be n SE Michigan. Those young, hip and cool people could have help tranformed the city / region.
"IT staff" and "hip and cool" in the same sentence? Who are you trying to kid .
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:21 AM
 
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When GM needed to add IT jobs, the jobs were placed in Austin, TX and other hip, young and exciting areas. Those $75k ++ plus jobs should be n SE Michigan. Those young, hip and cool people could have help tranformed the city / region.
General Motors operates across dozens of datacenters in the US; which is a large reason why they have hired a few hundred folks in Texas, etc. Quite frankly, many of the previous contractors that are being in-sourced are from Texas, so it only makes sense that they would build a GM-controlled facility down there.
Regardless, the overwhelmingly majority of the number of jobs they have hired is in SE Michigan, where they have hired and transitioned over several thousand of employees already, as it is well known that they are expanding the Warren TechCenter datacenter. This has nothing to do with: hip and cool. As in fact, GM is not hip or cool.

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The region must work together and grow as one. The region will not grow unless you have a vibrant city center, period (Royal Oak will not cut it).
Yes, I think most of SE Michigan would agree with you. Yes, I know when most people from Detroit look at us suburb folk, they think of Brook Patterson. But personally, I think there are more people out in the suburbs that want to see Detroit succeed, then vice versa.

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The region and the state as a whole fails to realize this. The people of MI have the attitude of an elementary school kid "ewww Detroit has the cooties". It's embarrassing. And one has to wonder why Detroit is still in decline. The only people who want to be around negativity is other negative people.
Detroit is in decline because of mismanagement, DPS and their inability to combat crime. When the people of MI watch the local news, do you blame them for having a negative opinion of Detroit?
I, myself, have donated money to the Detroit Opera House and the Science Museum, as I want reasons to visit Detroit.
Yet, Detroit has a bad image. And for good reason. Detroit does not have cooties. Detroit has way more worse problems that cooties. Didn't they just elect an 8-time ex-con to an office seat by a wide margin?
...That is embarrassing. And one has to wonder why Detroit is still in decline. The only people who want to be around stupid is other stupid people.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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Do not take this post negatively. I have lived in several areas, including SE Michigan. The region must work together and grow as one. The region will not grow unless you have a vibrant city center, period (Royal Oak will not cut it). When GM needed to add IT jobs, the jobs were placed in Austin, TX and other hip, young and exciting areas. Those $75k ++ plus jobs should be n SE Michigan. Those young, hip and cool people could have help tranformed the city / region. When people visit your city ( I did this week ), stop bashing it. I also visited Nashville, TN this week and all were excited about the city (most did not live in the city but viewed it as the hub). SE Michigan must understand that the region is FAR behind other areas. Where do you think I would want to take my talents? Nashville or Detroit? Again, this is not a bashing thread. It seems like Dan Gilbert has the vision and I wish him luck.

As soon as Detroit City Clowncil gets on board, the rest will be relatively easy.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:22 AM
 
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What if the state government came up with a program that gave taxpayer money to trendy areas so the young, hip people would want to move there? Maybe call it something like....I dunno..."Cool Cities." Do you guys think that would work?

I know that the main factor that most companies consider before relocating is "Is this city cool, hip and trendy like Austin, TX is? This company will ONLY hire hipsters." that is a MUCH more important factor than details like the education of the local population or taxes.

Congrats, exit18b, on the dumbest post of the year. Slow clap for you, sir.
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