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Old 11-22-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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You are not diet controlled. You take metaforin. Your diabetes is controlled by this drug, not by diet.

Of course people who eat very low carbohydrates are going to have trouble when they try to introduce them into their diet again, since low carbohydrate diet's make insulin resistance worse.

Metformin isn't taken with food to keep spikes from happening, and it does NOT keep a blood sugar spike from happening. It does help lower fasting blood sugar.

Since you know nothing about diabetes, I suggest you stop giving diabetics advice. By the way, the diet you describe as being a "cure" for diabetes has been my normal diet all my life...and guess what, I'm diabetic.

I'm putting you on my ignore list, so stop harping on me about "curing" my diabetes. My endocrinologist and my primary care provider are very happy with my diabetic control. I am happy with my diet. My labs are PERFECT. So, bugger off; your "cure for diabetes" is full of beans.

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Old 11-22-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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I say why bother on the low carb tortillas. One regular corn tortilla is 10g - 1g fiber = 9g net carbs. If you are looking at just carbs then the difference in minimal.

Tostadas such as these are 6g net carbs each.
https://www.heb.com/product-detail/h...stadas/1705651


I realize HEB is a regional brand but there has to be something else that is comparable.
No wonder the "low carb" people are still on diabetes medications, if this is the kind off "carbs" they are eating.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Metformin isn't taken with food, and it does NOT keep a blood sugar spike from happening. It does help lower fasting blood sugar.

Since you know nothing about diabetes, I suggest you stop giving diabetics advice. By the way, the diet you describe as being a "cure" for diabetes has been my normal diet all my life...and guess what, I'm diabetic.

I'm putting you on my ignore list, so stop harping on me about "curing" my diabetes. My endocrinologist and my primary care provider are very happy with my diabetic control. I am happy with my diet. My labs are PERFECT. So, bugger off; your "cure for diabetes" is full of beans.

I know what I am talking about. There is a bunch of science behind what I'm talking about. Here is just some:

Plant-Based Diets for Diabetes | NutritionFacts.org

BTW, do you know that vegetables are mostly carbs?
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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No wonder the "low carb" people are still on diabetes medications, if this is the kind off "carbs" they are eating.


Are you diabetic?
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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I say why bother on the low carb tortillas. One regular corn tortilla is 10g - 1g fiber = 9g net carbs. If you are looking at just carbs then the difference in minimal.
My glucometer begs to differ.

The 6 g carbs tortillas I eat don't budge my blood sugar, and I like them a lot. My husband's regular tortillas do raise my sugar. I'll stick with the low carb ones.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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Are you diabetic?
Nope. The way I eat and live makes is pretty much impossible to become diabetic. I have worked with hundreds of diabetics, though, over the years.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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My glucometer begs to differ.

The 6 g carbs tortillas I eat don't budge my blood sugar, and I like them a lot. My husband's regular tortillas do raise my sugar. I'll stick with the low carb ones.
What kind of tortilla is that that he is eating? What is a "regular" tortilla to you? There are many types.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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By the way, the diet you describe as being a "cure" for diabetes has been my normal diet all my life...and guess what, I'm diabetic.
I doubt you were eating the way I am suggesting. However, I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Maybe you can provide an example of a day's worth of eating when you were eating this way?
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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Metformin isn't taken with food to keep spikes from happening, and it does NOT keep a blood sugar spike from happening. It does help lower fasting blood sugar.
Actually, Metformin is used to treat insulin resistance and for some people may not lower BG at all. If your beta cells are not producing enough insulin the Metformin will not have any effect. This is why Metformin is commonly used in combination with a Sulfonylurea which increases insulin release. Examples of this are many, I happen to take Glimepiride.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfonylurea

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Metformin's main action is to decrease the overproduction of glucose by the liver, a common problem in prediabetes and type 2 diabetes. ... Overall, metformin decreases insulin resistance and improves insulin sensitivity, thereby helping the insulin your body still makes work more effectively.
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My glucometer begs to differ.

The 6 g carbs tortillas I eat don't budge my blood sugar, and I like them a lot. My husband's regular tortillas do raise my sugar. I'll stick with the low carb ones.
Everyone is different, that is why I mentioned "if you are looking at just carbs". Medication is another factor that may be different for everybody. If you are on insulin (which I am not on, thank god), then you have to eat carbs or your die.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:43 PM
 
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Nope.
You could have stopped right there. Nothing you said after that mattered.

Even the healthiest eaters can be diabetic. Diabetes is not caused solely by eating habits. I certainly hope you never do develop the disease because I think many of your preconceived notions might just shatter your confidence and you will struggle.


Diabetes, for many diabetics, is a continuous struggle. Not every diabetic reacts the same way to the same foods. Some diabetics cannot eat fruits, some cannot eat carbs, some can eat both!


As a NON-diabetic your anecdotal evidence is just that, anecdotal. It may help someone somewhere but each diabetic needs to live with their numbers and adjust their diet based on their numbers. This is not a one size fits all condition and your preachiness is very condescending.
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