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Old 07-26-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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I just read this and it reminded me of another thread posted recently here https://www.city-data.com/forum/diabe...-fat-diet.html

Here is the article and it is very informative.

Vegan vs Keto for Diabetes, which is Optimal?

Diabetes is complicated and becoming even more so as we discover new diets and ways to treat it.
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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As far as I am concerned, either of these "diets" are too extreme. I feel best on an omnivore regimen, and I do eat complex carbs. I exercise and maintain muscle tone, drink a lot of water, take herbal supplements like berberine. This works best for me.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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I don't see how a vegan diet has anything at all to do with diabetes. What do you think it would do for diabetes?

I've been vegetarian all my life and have diabetes.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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It goes a little deeper than that. The article basically is saying high fat diets which are popular with diabetics (including me) lead to insulin resistance which is a major problem with many T2's. I don't believe it myself because the proof is in the pudding. I still have diabetes regardless. It is well controlled but my health markers have improved substantially since following a low carb high fat diet.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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A keto/ non-vegan diet doesn't have to be high fat. A normal fat level is fine.
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:20 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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It works by percentages of Fat, Protein and Carbohydrates. The lowest will always be carbohydrates, typically less than 10%. The protein level should be no more than moderate because protein turns to glucose in the absence of carbs. That leaves fat as the highest percentage, hence the name high fat. The actual percentage varies but usually 60% or more for fat. Many people here the words "high fat" and automatically assume large amounts of meat and cheese but there are wide variety of sources of dietary fat including plant sources.

The Ketogenic Diet 101: A Detailed Beginner’s Guide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm a huge fan of keto/low carb. I know all about ketosis and gluconeogenesis. I still wouldn't use the term "high fat." That's just me.
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