Chimps are omnivores--should we be, too? (overweight, health issues, vitamins, proteins)
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I've gone from vegetarian back to being a omnivore. I do go days without eating much animal product, but then I get a craving and feel a need for eggs or a stir-fry using chicken, pork and rarely, beef. Possibly, it may be a vitamin B need that cries out for meat that creates the craving. This seems to work well, I'm very healthy and take no meds, weight's normal. Guess it's kind of a Mediterranean diet I'm following, more or less.
Its easy for an ovo lacto vegetarian to get all needed nutrients, using eggs and dairy. Even easier for a pescatarian, who eats fish as well. Its more difficult for pure vegans, but possible with planning.
Many more people are taking steps short of even vegetarianism - they are limiting their sources of meat to ones that are humanely farmed (to address ethical issues) or are limiting total meat consumption without eliminating it (to address environmental and/or health concerns) this last is called "flexitarianism"
We get -everything- we need, just by eating as we are intended to eat. If we eat otherwise, we have to find substitutes. Hence, soy "milk" and "soy patties" and "alternative protein substance" and whatever else. You -can- get what you need with substitutes, alternatives, and supplements, as a vegetarian. But as an omnivore, eating AS an omnivore, you don't need to substitute, alternate, or supplement.
You only need those if you are A. vegan and B. need convenience
A non-vegan vegetarian can get complete proteins from Eggs, milk or fish (depending on what kind of vegetarian they are) A vegan with sufficient time for cooking can get complete proteins by combining WHOLE legumes with whole grains.
I am NOT a vegetarian, but find occasional use of Soy milk, vegetarian patties, etc, fits well into my lifestyle.
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What has been demonstrated by long-term, strict vegans is that a diet comprised 100% of vegetable material is nutritionally sufficient and may be sustained indefinitely so long as the practitioner is consuming a large enough volume of food to meet his or her caloric needs. That said, it isn't a natural diet at all.
Here's a wacky question from left field..do you think vegetarians are more pacifist and less violent than omnivores or carnivores? I'm thinking of examples from the animal kingdom...but does this apply to humans, too? For example hungry cows are pretty non-violent compared to a hungry tiger..is it the same with people?
Here's a wacky question from left field..do you think vegetarians are more pacifist and less violent than omnivores or carnivores? I'm thinking of examples from the animal kingdom...but does this apply to humans, too? For example hungry cows are pretty non-violent compared to a hungry tiger..is it the same with people?
Having watched PETA members break into and vandalize private property, throw ink and other nasty things on celebreties who "dare" to wear furs, I'd say no - vegetarians are no more or less violent than anyone else.
Also, regarding your cow example: try annoying a bull some time. Let us know how that works out for ya.
What has been demonstrated by long-term, strict vegans is that a diet comprised 100% of vegetable material is nutritionally sufficient and may be sustained indefinitely so long as the practitioner is consuming a large enough volume of food to meet his or her caloric needs. That said, it isn't a natural diet at all.
No.......UH, no. The ability of people to utilize nutrients varies a LOT. A percentage of people MAY do ok on the wacky Veganc*lt diet.....many will get sick and fail to thrive.
Myself as an example. I have anemia.......I have to eat iron rich foods at least 3 times a week......iron rich as in liver, heart, lung.....etc. If I was to adopt a diet that is composed of vegetables, which are low in high quality iron, as are all plant sources of iron.....yikes, I could possibly die.
No.......UH, no. The ability of people to utilize nutrients varies a LOT. A percentage of people MAY do ok on the wacky Veganc*lt diet.....many will get sick and fail to thrive.
Myself as an example. I have anemia.......I have to eat iron rich foods at least 3 times a week......iron rich as in liver, heart, lung.....etc. If I was to adopt a diet that is composed of vegetables, which are low in high quality iron, as are all plant sources of iron.....yikes, I could possibly die.
I dont know what diet you are calling "wacky" but becuz you are anemic and need the iron from meat, does not mean a vegetarian diet is wacky. It's very healthy and many people can live on it and thrive, including athletes, pregnant women, children, and all types of active adults.
Most vegatarians i know dont eat "meat substitutes," but yes they are out there. I dont eat them nor do i eat soy. I use almond milk becuz i need something on my cereal and i dont want cow's milk.
I totally disagree that MANY will get sick and fail to thrive. If someone has a medical condition and cant be a vegetarian - that is one thing.
Many on the regular diet of the US are sick and failing to thrive.
I dont know what diet you are calling "wacky" but becuz you are anemic and need the iron from meat, does not mean a vegetarian diet is wacky. It's very healthy and many people can live on it and thrive, including athletes, pregnant women, children, and all types of active adults.
Most vegatarians i know dont eat "meat substitutes," but yes they are out there. I dont eat them nor do i eat soy. I use almond milk becuz i need something on my cereal and i dont want cow's milk.
I totally disagree that MANY will get sick and fail to thrive. If someone has a medical condition and cant be a vegetarian - that is one thing.
Many on the regular diet of the US are sick and failing to thrive.
A percentage of people MAY do ok on the wacky Veganc*lt diet.....many will get sick and fail to thrive
Uh, if you did not notice I was referring to the Veganc*lt. Yeah I think that you can be very healthy on a vegetarian diet........vegan........if you are strict it is a rare few that will do good on that diet.
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