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I never said anything about the article being biased one way or another. It offers a point of view that is contrary to what we've been lead to believe. In essence, that cholesterol does not cause heart disease.
It lists 20 bullet points on these books. The article is not about weight loss but more about heart health, cholesterol, triglycerides etc and how they are affected by diet.
All I can say is read the bullet points to see what I am talking about. If you don't agree with it, that's your prerogative but that's what I believe and we can agree to disagree.
This forum may be opinion based and everyone is entitled to their own but these books are based on scientific studies just like everything we've been "told" for decades.
You are right. Cholesterol, itself, does not cause heart disease. It is one of several markers for heart disease.
The actual trend is not low carb/high protein, it's low carb/high fat. And when I say fats, I mean healthy fats. Some fat from meat, but mostly from other sources.
Where is the fat from these other sources supposed to come from if it is not coming from foods that don't also have a lot of protein, but still making up a majority of the calories in the diet? Butter? Lard?
Where is the fat from these other sources supposed to come from if it is not coming from foods that don't also have a lot of protein, but still making up a majority of the calories in the diet? Butter? Lard?
With meat choose fatty protein instead of lean protein. It's the ratio that's important. If you eat lean protein (i.e. chicken breast) accompany it with half an avocado or some cheese.
I also make my salads "fatty". I add feta cheese, olives and homemade vinaigrette made with EVOO. I do NOT use dressings made with soybean oil like ranch or most store bought dressings. Most of the mayo that is sold is made with soybean oil. It's a cheap unhealthy oil.
The most recent recommendations are to look at the LPL(a) cholesterol using the VAP test. It's not discussed in the link above. You may have to order it yourself or ask your cardiologist to order it.
With meat choose fatty protein instead of lean protein. It's the ratio that's important. If you eat lean protein (i.e. chicken breast) accompany it with half an avocado or some cheese.
I also make my salads "fatty". I add feta cheese, olives and homemade vinaigrette made with EVOO. I do NOT use dressings made with soybean oil like ranch or most store bought dressings. Most of the mayo that is sold is made with soybean oil. It's a cheap unhealthy oil.
So, now we've flip-flopped again into another nutrient reductionist fad. From low-fat/high-carb to high protein/low-carb to high-fat/low carb/low protein.
It will be interesting to see what any long term research shows about these things. Probably what it has ended up showing about most reductionist nutritional thinking... that none of them work and all end up being worse for health and causing more disease than they were supposed to fix.
Personally, I prefer to incorporate what the healthiest and longest lived people in the world have been doing for centuries with their lifestyles and diet... a wide variety of mostly whole, unrefined plant-based foods with relatively small amounts of animal products and lots of physical activity.
The most recent recommendations are to look at the LPL(a) cholesterol using the VAP test. It's not discussed in the link above. You may have to order it yourself or ask your cardiologist to order it.
"Myth–A high carbohydrate diet protects you from heart disease. Fact–Simple processed carbs and sugars predispose you to heart disease."
The fact that the book does not differentiate between foods that are composed mostly of simple, processed carbohydrate/refined sugar and whole, unprocessed plant foods that contain a majority calories from carbohydrate pretty much destroys any credibility it and the authors might have.
Whole food plant based diets have been shown to lower heart disease risk and to be extremely healthful overall when up to 85% of calories come from carbohydrate on these diets. On the other hand, diets with the same percentage of refined carbohydrate and sugar are going to be very unhealthy.
By failing to make this distinction, the authors are showing either that they are being disingenuous by withholding the facts of this or that they don't understand the basic differences between sources of carbohydrate.
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By failing to make this distinction, the authors are showing either that they are being disingenuous by withholding the facts of this or that they don't understand the basic differences between sources of carbohydrate.
That's huge.
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Not to mention that they don't understand how epidemiology works. Their statement that half of the people with higher cholesterol actually have healthy hearts and that cholesterol is not a predictor of coronary artery disease. If you do the actual math, people with high cholesterol actually have significantly higher risk of heart attack.
Davis and Sinatra, not Sammy and Frank, have heart disease blogs that have been saying the same thing for the last five years. The research shows most patients admitted for heart attacks have normal cholesterol levels as monitored in the lipid profile test.
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