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Originally Posted by k9coach
I am not referring to electric fence collars or bark collars. I am interested in responses from owners who use e-collars that come with a handheld remote.
Please describe how you use this tool in your training. Do you 'zap' the dog as punishment for disobedience? Do you apply a low level continuous zap to put pressure on the dog and then remove the pressure once the dog complies? How did you determine which level of shock to use?
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NO, you have to be training the dog with commands - so we assume the dog already KNOWS what you want but is not in the groove of being reliable...you press once then wait then press again if you don't get a reaction . The collar is set on the lowest vibration and you raise just to where they notice it. Yes there's also a button for continuous.
You give a quarter second signal (a setting). You can do it like:
"Come"...[nothing?]...."beep" "Come:wait a sec then.."beep" "beep" "Come" ...wait and if he's coming you STOP and praise. All positive. It's the same concept as a tense leash means tension but a loose leash means yay I'm doing the right thing. It's an INVISIBLE collar so to speak.
You would have already trained "come' on the long rope. YOu can still use the long rope with the signal.
THIS IS WHY WE CANNOT REWARD ANXIETY WITH PETTING LOL. But I digress.
For negative like growling over food, I saw Cesar Millan use it on a Lab who already owned one for field work. He was a professional hunter retreiver and competition dog but was getting neurotic over his food and entering his large pen with the food.
He didn't have any problem with the dog without it but the owner did. So she beeped him when he growled (still holding the food)...then when he stopped she held the food down a little and if he started again she beeped and raised the food back up (never AWAY sideways) ..then over again,,,. He finally got the point. Beep means I get food when I stop what I'm doing.
I'll try and find the video.
It's very precise, and need instructions from professionals watch these Dogtra videos:
Training Videos
Step by Step PDF:
PAT NOLAN METHOD: BASIC OBEDIENCE
It's also important to place it correctly on the dog in the right spot, and tight enough to not chafe his neck when running around the field with the two little pointy things there...etc.
And NO I don't think most people would do all the work necessary to use one properly and humanely or they wouldn't need it so much for average things.
And no I don't think particular nervous dogs are good candidates. This does NOT include excited exuberant dogs, though who simply need a "signal" they get so they know it's time to "wait" (sort of) and they'll get what they want. IE to visit a dog across the street but are too wild to allow it. Especially for an owner without skills on a powerful dog of any size - I've seen it work great.
A tool like anything else. But one that needs alot of care.