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So..........................I'm watching the Republican debate in New Hampshire and the question comes up about creating jobs in America. I noticed one the responses to this question was to dismantle the EPA. I believe one of the candidates specifically said it was a "job killer."
Now obviously because of time restriction at the debate the Candidates didn't have enough time to get into the specifics of why it needed to be dismantled.
sooooooooo..........Let me ask you guys since we have the time here to answer with more specificity.
Why is the EPA a "job killer?"
Does the EPA need to be dismantled (perhaps reconfigured) to help the U.S. economy?
Would America as a whole truly be better off without the EPA? (I understand this last question is more in the politcal/social realm......but...I think business health does has to be weighed against other concerns.)
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regulations they want to pursue curbing carbon dioxide emissions would eliminate certain means of producing energy like coal and they would also increase the costs of energy across the board. so you lose jobs in certain energy operations and you increase energy costs which could hurt businesses ability to remain profitable and stay in business.
the alternative argument would be that the world is doomed if we continue to emit co2 and so its worth the sacrifice.
The ever expanding plutocratic corporate empire would have you believe that the EPA is bad when in fact air quality in most parts of the US has significantly improved under the Clean Air Act. The big coal lobby which includes Peabody and Arch want to gut the powers of the EPA in order to blast off mountains for easy coal plays, and to hell with anyone who actually lives there. Visit these areas.
regulations they want to pursue curbing carbon dioxide emissions would eliminate certain means of producing energy like coal and they would also increase the costs of energy across the board. so you lose jobs in certain energy operations and you increase energy costs which could hurt businesses ability to remain profitable and stay in business.
the alternative argument would be that the world is doomed if we continue to emit co2 and so its worth the sacrifice.
Also, most coal plants are very old and grandfathered into the system. Many are still not taken offline when they should have been decades ago. Just replacing a few of those with natural gas would improve air quality.
im mostly concerned about my electric bill and the silly schemes politicians and opportunists are coming up with that will cause it to go up. there is nothing about "cap and trade" that isnt totally corrupt. if you wish to cap, then work with private industry to come up with fair caps. but never trade, trading is soooooo corrupt.
Would America as a whole truly be better off without the EPA?
No.
The job killer is when Corporate executives move plants and operations away rather than choosing to INVEST in AMERICA even if that means changing processes and ingredients in order to be safe(er).
im mostly concerned about my electric bill and the silly schemes politicians and opportunists are coming up with that will cause it to go up. there is nothing about "cap and trade" that isnt totally corrupt. if you wish to cap, then work with private industry to come up with fair caps. but never trade, trading is soooooo corrupt.
Most states have renewable portfolio standard that a big chunk of electricity comes from renewables. States where this has worked without much change in rates have been Minnesota and Iowa. Wind energy is a bug rural growth industry in those states.
Most states have renewable portfolio standard that a big chunk of electricity comes from renewables. States where this has worked without much change in rates have been Minnesota and Iowa. Wind energy is a bug rural growth industry in those states.
Funny you mention Iowa - the Duane Arnold nuclear plant, when I was working there 20 years ago, was capable of carrying the entire state's electric grid, so they can afford to use windmills when the wind is blowing, but DAEC carries the load when it's calm, I would think.
So..........................I'm watching the Republican debate in New Hampshire and the question comes up about creating jobs in America. I noticed one the responses to this question was to dismantle the EPA. I believe one of the candidates specifically said it was a "job killer."
Now obviously because of time restriction at the debate the Candidates didn't have enough time to get into the specifics of why it needed to be dismantled.
sooooooooo..........Let me ask you guys since we have the time here to answer with more specificity.
Why is the EPA a "job killer?"
Does the EPA need to be dismantled (perhaps reconfigured) to help the U.S. economy?
Would America as a whole truly be better off without the EPA? (I understand this last question is more in the politcal/social realm......but...I think business health does has to be weighed against other concerns.)
Well that is pretty much a loser for the Republicans. Yes people want jobs but they also tend to like clean air and clean water. The EPA should probably be put on a shorter leash and it should be required to do a cost/benefit study of any regulation it has. But no, it should not be eliminated.
The ever expanding plutocratic corporate empire would have you believe that the EPA is bad when in fact air quality in most parts of the US has significantly improved under the Clean Air Act. The big coal lobby which includes Peabody and Arch want to gut the powers of the EPA in order to blast off mountains for easy coal plays, and to hell with anyone who actually lives there. Visit these areas.
They will push you around as much as you let them. The nuclear industry is the same way too. They think they can bring their waste out here and dump it on us with no compensation at all. We let them know we are not having it (Yucca Mtn).
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