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Old 09-12-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Well, I think I've proven there is an argument about this subject.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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I am sure that some people do exactly as you describe. I am positive that others fit mine, and many are at various degrees on the spectrum.
Well...sure (where's a shrug emoticon when one is needed...).
My intuition simply tells me my type is predominant.
I may be wrong - but I simply know there are many hypocrites out there. I know one when I see one.

Another way to look at it is cross-cultural. The US would the most rich people of the kind we are debating. Folksy in appearance, heavy in bank account. That says something.

You will not see many rich people walking around or driving around in humble attire in other parts of the world. This is a quintessentially American statement.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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Rich people pretending to be "down to earth" cracks me up. What's the point of all that money if not to insulate yourself from the realities of what it means to be "down to earth"

reminds me of this:
Affluent White Man Enjoys, Causes The Blues | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:59 PM
 
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Rich people pretending to be "down to earth" cracks me up. What's the point of all that money if not to insulate yourself from the realities of what it means to be "down to earth"

reminds me of this:
Affluent White Man Enjoys, Causes The Blues | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

There, there...

Maybe they will like your "articulations" better than they liked mine.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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What we need to do is to create a one issue party that issue is the economy, all else doesn’t matter.
You're on the right track.
But rather than attempting to re-create the wheel...

How about somehow getting the financial conservatives from both ends of the spectrum...
to FORCE the social conservatives back to the sidelines of politics where they used to be and still belong.
(think mushrooms and manure piles)

All they need do is to simply refuse to even talk about those issues ...
let alone to actually waste time and energy doing anything about them...
for, oh... lets say 10 or 20 years?

Or at least until the work that the Country and the government actually needs to address has been accomplished.
I'm in.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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No thanks.
I don't have a dog in your fight.
But I will offer some other "enlightenment" for you to consider:
You're at over 200 posts and still attempting to argue the same point.
Either you're wrong... or you're inarticulate.

Anyone (else) think this conclusion is absurd?
I vote with you on that one, Mr. Rational. There is nothing quite as tedious as two posters, both of whom absolutely have to have the last word, going back and forth ad nauseum repeating their positions with slightly different words and splitting semantic hairs about the other one's posts. Enough already!
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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I vote with you on that one, Mr. Rational. There is nothing quite as tedious as two posters, both of whom absolutely have to have the last word, going back and forth ad nauseum repeating their positions with slightly different words and splitting semantic hairs about the other one's posts. Enough already!

Hey! I resemble that remark!
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:41 AM
 
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So am I just imagining this? Is being rich bad for your health these days? It's just amazing to me that we went from "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" to the French Revolution mentality in only a couple of years... and the trend seems to show no signs of slowing. Maybe it isn't a bad thing, but then again, maybe it is... whatdayathink?


I don't think being rich is bad. I think what you are noticing is the difference between having a high income and credit and actually having sustainable wealth.

People with sustainable wealth would not be caught dead in Hummers or large tract homes in communties held up by shopping malls and strip malls or "lifestyle centers" as they became known.

The high income good credit crowd have nothing to boast on because they were living paycheck to paycheck then and now are busy praying they can sustain it for the next 4 years and keep their jobs until we are out of this current economic condition.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, CA
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I don't think being rich is bad. I think what you are noticing is the difference between having a high income and credit and actually having sustainable wealth.

People with sustainable wealth would not be caught dead in Hummers or large tract homes in communties held up by shopping malls and strip malls or "lifestyle centers" as they became known.

The high income good credit crowd have nothing to boast on because they were living paycheck to paycheck then and now are busy praying they can sustain it for the next 4 years and keep their jobs until we are out of this current economic condition.
That is too true! People who emerge from one class to another still sees the value in money and seek to preserve it as much as possible. When you're barely living from paycheck to paycheck and making a little extra, you try to save that money to grow it and do other things.

I think it's only when you have way too much money to know what to do with it when you really start treating yourself to that yacht and that sports car.
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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There seems to be more and more of it as time goes on. It's seriously amazing to see how things changed so fast.

I work for the Government and regularly dealt with "do you know who I am?" folks... you know the type, the "supersize my life" McMansion and chromed Hummer crowd that has virtually disappeared in the last three years. No one has used that line with me since 2008; seriously.
These days, if you are wealthy you are scorned and shamed and demonized and joked about like never before in this country. It's as if everyone with a positive bank account suddenly became a ridicule-worthy clown like this:



I don't consider myself to be rich, but I come from a family that is. Their crowd seems to have switched their Mercedes and Cadillacs for Toyotas and Chevys, their vacations are now to Colorado or California instead of Europe or Bali, even though they really aren't any poorer than they were back in the glory days of conspicuous consumption. They seem to try very hard to not stand out anymore.

So am I just imagining this? Is being rich bad for your health these days? It's just amazing to me that we went from "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" to the French Revolution mentality in only a couple of years... and the trend seems to show no signs of slowing. Maybe it isn't a bad thing, but then again, maybe it is... whatdayathink?
People are beginning to wise up and realize that there is two sides to this economic war, the wealthy and the general public.
Policies that benefit one group do so at the expense of the other.
The wealthy have for the most part screwed the rest of the general population, and they are starting to wake up and realize that.
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