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Loathing about having to pay more in taxes to help fund intiatives for the greater good of our society when you already have more than plenty of money comes across as pretty whiny, no matter how you look at it.
Why do you not get a better job so you can pay more to fund initiatives for the greater good of society. What are you doing now?
It's very hard to fail when you're given millions of dollars by your rich daddy even though you're grossly incompetent.
Actually it is very easy to fail - it is much easier to name call though which is what many here are doing.
Even if you take the highest estimated inheritance, he is currently worth many times more that amount. He certainly took chances and lost money on some investments but more often than not made money. Many very wealthy take chances that the rest of us would not dare take, that is how they get very rich.
He is also 1 billion in debt and has filed bankruptcy 6 times related to his businesses. No exactly competent. He also benefited from his father's businesses connections. He is known as a mediocre business person by people in top tier of wealth, business and economics.
I think it is way past "fathers business connections, that was 27 years ago - they are his connections to maintain at this point.
Statements like "mediocre business person" are easy to make - show some proof. Also "people in top tier of wealth, business and economics" - How many of these do you know?
Give me a break - you are just trying to tear down someone you disagree with or you would provide proof.
His billions of net worth is net of debt, so that's a moot point. That's why it's called "net" He has never filed bankruptcy, companies that he owned have, but he has not.
I'm not saying he's as good as Jeff Bezos or Steve Jobs, but he has at least had some success.
Gotta love it, measuring Trump up against two other guys also born on 3rd base...
Ok, and so what do you propose? If people are below average, why do they deserve an outcome that’s not below average?
If they are below average they can not help that they are making a low wage then and then yes they do need help. Are you really okay with letting people have to take government benefits because they do not make enough or even become homeless? We could could greatly reduce poverty if we really wanted to but there are many selfish people who only care that they got what they have and could care less if someone else is struggling.
If they are below average they can not help that they are making a low wage then and then yes they do need help.
Not necessarily.
Half the population is below average, being a member of that 165 million member club doesn't automatically mean one is making low wages. To take that further making low wages doesn't automatically mean someone needs help either.
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"Jeff Bezos was born on January 12, 1964, as Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen. His biological dad, Ted Jorgensen, met and started dating his mother, Jacklyn Gise, when they were both in high school. Jorgensen was 18 and Gise was 16 when she became pregnant. They flew to Mexico with their parents’ money to get married. Jorgensen belonged to a unicycle troupe and worked at a retail store making $1.25 an hour, so he didn’t have much money. He was also “had a habit of drinking too much,” according to “The Everything Store: Jeff Bezos and the Age of Amazon,” by journalist and biographer Brad Stone. When Jeff Bezos was 17 months old, his mom divorced Jorgensen. In 1968, Gise remarried Miguel Bezos, who arrived in Miami in 1962 from Cuba knowing only one word of English: “hamburger.” Jorgensen agreed to let Bezos adopt his son and, at 4 years old, Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen became Jeffrey Preston Bezos."
Dude grew up middle class, went to public schools, and worked at McDonald's as a teenager. What's your definition of second base, being born in a rice field in Cambodia?
If they are below average they can not help that they are making a low wage then and then yes they do need help. Are you really okay with letting people have to take government benefits because they do not make enough or even become homeless? We could could greatly reduce poverty if we really wanted to but there are many selfish people who only care that they got what they have and could care less if someone else is struggling.
You have no idea how charitable I am or how much tax I pay.
Maybe I think working for 4 months out of the year for it to be simply taken from me and my family and given to the whims of what others consider to be the greater good is wrong. Maybe I want to dictate what cause it goes to.
Maybe I don’t care about other people’s college education when I still haven’t paid for mine. I have my own medical bills. Why do I want to worry about paying someone else’s when I already literally pay tens of thousands of taxes, and pay for medical insurance, and then pay the thousands left over still.
If someone is below average, they’re just that. This may be hard for you to comprehend but it’s impossible not to have poor people. It’s impossible not to have people below average. There isn’t some utopia where you can make everyone have good outcomes without good inputs.
And I know what it’s like to be poor. I’ve been poor. I’ve seen some of the poorest cities in this country. I’ve seen it from both sides. Some people cannot be helped. Period. And still others, quite frankly shouldn’t be helped.
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