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Old 03-31-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Reihan Salam said When my mother was my age, she was working full time while raising three small children, and she spent every spare moment studying to finish a graduate degree. My father was working extremely hard as well. Between the two of them, they were able to provide their kids with a solidly middle-class life. But it wasn’t easy, and it wasn’t always fun.

So now, as a childless professional in my mid-30s, I often reflect on the sacrifices working parents make to better the lives of their children.

Tax credits and children: Parents should pay lower taxes, and childless people should pay higher taxes.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:31 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the great american scheme, lets raise taxes, on somebody else.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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No way! Why should I have to pay more so these "parents" can have a break? I didn't hold a gun to their head and demand they have children. That's their choice, they can pay for it.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:38 PM
 
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There are already enormous tax giveaways for having kids. You get an extra deduction, a child tax credit, and if you're lower income, the EITC. People with kids routinely walk away with thousands of dollars in "free" money. And then the government spends thousands more per child for public schools. In many cases, the government even provides lunch and transportation. Then those same people have the gall to unironically complain about "welfare." I don't know what else the government could possibly do.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:49 PM
 
Location: nebraska
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Wouldn't make sense to make parents pay higher taxes since by having children using the public facilities like school and such they are placing a higher demand for tax funded infrastructure than non parents? Thats the common sense thing. Of course in america, those whose rely on the government the least pay the most.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No way! Why should I have to pay more so these "parents" can have a break? I didn't hold a gun to their head and demand they have children. That's their choice, they can pay for it.
Amen. They will be demonstrating personal responsibility for their children to witness.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:12 PM
 
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There are already enormous tax giveaways for having kids. You get an extra deduction, a child tax credit, and if you're lower income, the EITC. People with kids routinely walk away with thousands of dollars in "free" money. And then the government spends thousands more per child for public schools. In many cases, the government even provides lunch and transportation. Then those same people have the gall to unironically complain about "welfare." I don't know what else the government could possibly do.
Yeah, but slate authors rarely let mere facts interfere with their opinion pieces. We rational people make the mistake of assuming everyone else also bases their opinions on facts rather than feelings.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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No way! Why should I have to pay more so these "parents" can have a break? I didn't hold a gun to their head and demand they have children. That's their choice, they can pay for it.
I am a childless single and I couldn't disagree with you more....

Governments want stable/increasing populations. Children are future citizens, taxpayers, and economic producers/consumers. Children require a significant amount of resources to properly rear. Therefore, tax policy should favor families and those planning to start families.

You and I are a societal dead-end as long as we choose not to have children. Childless singles have little political clout whereas families overwhelmingly do. Therefore, governments can and will point a gun to your head and demand you subsidize the continuation of our civilization until you choose to bear them yourself.

I have no problem with this....I am happy to subsidize families with a greater portion of my income being taxed to help alleviate their burden of raising our future citizens.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:34 PM
 
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You don't suppose that Sen. Mike Lee, author of this lame-brained tax plan, has another agenda just because he's a member of the LDS?
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:45 PM
 
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No way! Why should I have to pay more so these "parents" can have a break? I didn't hold a gun to their head and demand they have children. That's their choice, they can pay for it.
Well in our contemporary culture, people would say that why can't you do that if it's a cool idea to take care of the needy, have affordable care, etc. it's people's choice that they don't want to work, and they may starve if you don't pay tax. Well, then what about paying more for your fellow middle class and working class Americans who struggle to feed our future generation? Hmmm? Talk to tons of progressives, they'll ask you don't you have some conscience, hmm? Don't you have some sense of country? Some sense of broad love and compassion, hmm?
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